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Culture Wars : Gay Clergy on Plate for Presbyterians
Posted by David Virtue on 2009/2/2 23:10:00 (1589 reads)

Gay Clergy on Plate for Presbyterians

by Carol Forsloff
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/266403
February 3, 2009

Presbyterians have examined the issues and some of them have decided that having gay clergy is acceptable. They join many Episcopalians and members of the United Church of Christ on this issue.

On the other hand, given the divisions that are continuing to disrupt some congregations on this matter, it is likely the Presbyterians will be getting some flak from members.

On January 27, 2009 a news release from the Presbyterians announced that six Presbyteries had voted yes on a constitutional amendment towards allowing gay and lesbian ordination after 30 years of debating it. The Presbyterians that voted affirmative towards allowing it included Des Moines, Northern Kansas, Newton, New Jersey, Baltimore, Albany and New Castle. The votes were taken on January 17 of this year.

On January 27, five more presbyteries voted, including: Utica (NY), Carlisle (PA), Palisades (NJ), Donegal (PA), and San Fernando (CA) and, on January 31, four more will cast their ballots: Southern Kansas, Western North Carolina, Huntingdon (PA), and Cayuga-Syracuse (NY). Results of these votes will soon be announced.

Past practice required gay and lesbian couples to be celibate but did not require the same of married ministers. The General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church passed an amendment in June of 2008 eliminating that ban on gay candidates. The legislation won't take effect until the final vote of the presbyteries. Over half of them will vote by the end of February.


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Cennydd
Posted: 2009/2/3 12:58  Updated: 2009/2/3 12:58
Home away from home
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From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin
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 Re: Gay Clergy on Plate for Presbyterians
If they're smart, they'll toss this stinking dead fish into the garbage can where it belongs, and let it rot.

Cennydd
aspire1983
Posted: 2009/2/3 18:07  Updated: 2009/2/3 18:07
Home away from home
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From: FORMERLY Diocese of Virginia / Now CANA
Posts: 421
 Re: Gay Clergy on Plate for Presbyterians
Are they out of their freakin' minds??? Haven't they been at all apprised of what affect this issue has had on the entire Anglican Communion?

Hey, Presbys - - HINT: IT AIN'T WORTH IT!
FBGFBG
Posted: 2009/2/3 19:46  Updated: 2009/2/3 19:46
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 Re: Gay Clergy on Plate for Presbyterians
The source for this story has quite a bias. The facts are the PCUSA Presbyteries have been voting down such biennial decisions by the General Assembly in ever increasing majorities since the 90's. All the original reporter tells is about a cluster of like minded Presbyteries who arranged to vote for just such a story to be published. By the way, as a former Episcopalian, I must say what a relief it is to not have non Orthodox Bishops to contend with anymore in church governance.
Baring-G
Posted: 2009/2/3 21:12  Updated: 2009/2/3 21:12
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Joined: 2007/8/8
From: Republic of Florida
Posts: 146
 Re: Gay Clergy on Plate for Presbyterians
The story refers to The Presbyterian Church USA, the largest and most liberal of US Presbyterian denominations.There are alternative orthodox believing Presbyterian denominations such as The Presbyterian Church in America, The Associate Reformed Prebyterian Church, The Orthodox Presbyterian Church,The Bible Presbyterian Church,The Free Presbyterian Church and The Reformed Presbyterian Church.Some congregations of the PCUSA have left that denomination or have tried to (with insuing litigation) in the past few years. Some PCUSA members have joined congregations of the aformentioned alternative denominations or started new congregations. Most PCUSA members have no knowledge of what is occuring in their denomination and many of their ministers are afraid to tell them. I have advised PCUSA affiliated relatives and friends to seek sound alternatives. Fr. Baring-Gould +
Isaac
Posted: 2009/2/4 12:12  Updated: 2009/2/4 12:12
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From: Texas
Posts: 628
 Re: Gay Clergy on Plate for Presbyterians
Andrew Doyle, Bishop of Texas, has no plans to remove the Diocese from TEC, so while I have not yet decided to leave, I am looking around. It looks like I will need to scratch the Presbyterians off of my list.

Isaac
dturk
Posted: 2009/2/6 2:26  Updated: 2009/2/6 2:26
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Are these fools serious? Look at what gay clergy have done for TEC and the Roman Catholic Church.
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