Black Bishop Rips Episcopal Lesbian Leader for her Views of Rick Warren and Intolerance
News Analysis
By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
12/24/2008
A leading Black African Bishop, the founder and Chairman of the High Impact Leadership Coalition (HILC) and senior pastor of the 3,000-member Hope Christian Church in Washington, D.C., ripped the lesbian leader of the Episcopal Church's Integrity organization describing her condemnation of Dr. Rick Warren as "intolerant" and typical of the Left's "mischaracterization" of the views of the Saddleback pastor.
Bishop Harry R. Jackson butted heads with the Rev. Susan Russell on FOX News Channel. In a Sunday segment subtitled "President-elect Obama under fire for inviting Rick Warren to speak at Inauguration.", Jackson said that Russell slandered Warren's name in order "to advance their cause and their PR and wanting to sound tolerant about being so aggressive."
Jackson, who was named one of the top 50 most influential Christians in 2005 by the Christian Post, believes that the church and its leaders must lead the way to protect America's moral compass and heal the nation. A transcript of the " Fox News Sunday" segment on the controversy over President-elect Obama's invitation to Pastor Rick Warren to offer the invocation at his January 20th Inauguration appeared on Russell's blog:
Bishop Jackson: This controversy is a clear example of just how intolerant the gay community is about anyone they disagree with. They've mischaracterized what they've said about Rick Warren. He was not calling gay people pedophiles or anything of that nature and they've been putting out a false story for PR purposes.
MODERATOR: Joining us now on the phone is the Reverend Susan Russell, a priest at All Saints Episcopal Church in California where Prop 8 has been a hotly contested issue. What say you about the invitation to Pastor Warren to speak?
REVEREND RUSSELL: I think it's an unfortunate choice, I think it's a disappointing choice. As I said in my open letter to the President-elect, I applaud -- I applaud. -- his efforts to bring the evangelicals back to the table.-I think that's exactly the sort of post-partisan leadership we're looking for in our president-elect, but we could have done better than Rick Warren.
And I want to rebut your guest. This is not about gay intolerance. This about pointing out that Rick Warren as a pastor has compared a woman's right to choose to the Holocaust, who doesn't believe in evolution, he has said that the Bible would condone the assassination of the President of Iran. These are ideas that are way outside the mainstream of American religious thought.
What I'm saying is rather than seeing gays as being "intolerant," we're serving as the canary in the coal mine saying we deserve better - the American people deserve better - and if you're going to ask someone to pray a blessing on America on Inauguration Day, please select someone who speaks for all Americans.
MODERATOR: Bishop Jackson?
BISHOP JACKSON: Well, I think this is part of the PR spin. Your guest is mischaracterizing the statements of Rick Warren. He is the new Billy Graham. He represents American. The Purpose Driven Life ... everybody knows ...has sold multiple millions of copies ... and he's given millions of dollars to help people who are HIV/AIDS ... he is not intolerant ... he's helped the gay community. I just resent that they're slandering his name to advance their cause and their PR and they want to sound tolerant about being so aggressive.
MODERATOR: Let me point something out to both of you. Last night, Rick Warren spoke for a gathering of Muslims in Southern California - about 800 there. Melissa Etheridge opened up the event, performing there as well, and she of course is openly gay. She went on to say that Pastor Rick Warren is a great guy, someone that she enjoys talking to despite their differences. President-elect Barack Obama has said the same thing.
And then [Warren] also gave a quote here. He said, "Let me just get this over very quickly. I love Muslims, and for the media's purposes I happen to love gays and straights." He said people ask him what he prays for when it comes to the President-elect Obama and he said (quote): "I pray for the president the same things I pray for myself: integrity, humility and compassion." Reverend Russell, what's wrong with that?
REVEREND RUSSELL: There's nothing wrong with that. Our issue is, we want to see the actions meet the words. This is a person, Pastor Warren, who preaches family values and practices discrimination against gay and lesbian families. This is someone who fundraised and advocated to take civil rights away from California regarding civil marriage. We want to see the actions that meet the words and what we're asking is that rather than Rick Warren, the President-elect should look at evangelicals like Tony Campolo or ...
MODERATOR: Reverend Russell, we're running out of time here. I understand your point -- point well taken.
Bishop Jackson, I understand your point as well and of course it's up to the President-elect. He can choose who he wants to for the Invocation, and he says his choice is Rick Warren.
Russell is not the only pansexual proponent critical of President-elect Obama's choice. The openly homogenital Episcopal bishop of New Hampshire, Gene Robinson condemned Warren saying that the God Warren is praying to is not the God that he knows.
Washington Episcopal Bishop John Bryson Chane said he was "profoundly disappointed" by Obama's choice, accusing Warren of being "homophobic, xenophobic, and willing to use the machinery of the state to enforce his prejudices-even going so far as to support the assassination of foreign leaders."
Russell was angered and deflated by the recent passage of Prop 8 in California, vowing to push the California Supreme Court into reconsidering the issue."No one has the right to write their theology into our constitution," Russell said. This of course begs the question: If Prop 8 had lost, it would have been her pansexual theology written into the Constitution. Apparently, it is okay to write her version of theology into the California State Constitution, an apparently untenable position to most Californians.
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| JRoss | Posted: 2008/12/25 12:11 Updated: 2008/12/25 12:11 |
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"""Russell was angered and deflated by the recent passage of Prop 8 in California, vowing to push the California Supreme Court into reconsidering the issue."No one has the right to write their theology into our constitution," Russell said. This of course begs the question: If Prop 8 had lost, it would have been her pansexual theology written into the Constitution. Apparently, it is okay to write her version of theology into the California State Constitution, an apparently untenable position to most Californians."""
No one has the right to write constitutional principles into theology either and that is what the homogenitals are trying to do. |
| daveball | Posted: 2008/12/25 12:35 Updated: 2008/12/25 12:35 |
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One of the very many truly annoying aspects of the homo/lesbo set is the victim card they play. In every action, they see some type of conspiracy against their perverted agenda. Whoever Obama picked would not be good unless it was Vicky Gene or Suzie the Lesbo. Who cares who he picked? I'm just glad it wasn't Rev. Wight but if that was his pick, it would have been more honest than picking Rick Warren who opposes much of what Obama supports
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| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/12/25 15:11 Updated: 2008/12/25 15:14 |
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He could've picked Jesse Jackson, and in my opinion, it wouldn't have made that much difference.
Or he could've picked Bishop Duncan (wouldn't THAT have thrown Schori & Company into a snit!); the point is that he simply picked a clergyman to deliver the invocation! Ms Russell: For the sake of peace during this Christmas holiday, please keep your nose out of it. Cennydd |
| patulous | Posted: 2008/12/25 15:46 Updated: 2008/12/25 15:52 |
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Quote: "Russell is not the only pansexual proponent critical of President-elect Obama's choice. The openly homogenital Episcopal bishop of New Hampshire, Gene Robinson condemned Warren saying that the God Warren is praying to is not the God that he knows."
Well, we all know who VGR prays to and I personally believe it is Satan himself....so in this context, it will for the first time, I agree with VGR(VGR to beelzebub and Rick Warren to Jesus Christ). Rick Warren is well suited to pray at the worst president's, in the history of the U.S, inauguration. This faithless, godless administation to be, has so many hand picked hypocrites, deceit ridden, power hungry, and self-center slugs like Russell and Robinson. I have to say it like it is....the good people of the U.S. who voted for OBAMANATION are already regretting their choice. Wait until the NEW tax and spend gets started. Rick Warren is the only good pick he made and he is temporary....a one day job. |
| ahauber | Posted: 2008/12/25 15:59 Updated: 2008/12/25 15:59 |
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Or he could've picked Bishop Duncan
Hey Cenny, I would support that decision, more recognition for the new Anglican Provence in North America. Andy |
| jfmckenna | Posted: 2008/12/25 19:10 Updated: 2008/12/25 19:10 |
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It's amazing the people who weigh in on the subject of marriage! Robinson & Russell share the distinction of leaving a spouse and two children in the lurch to pursue their selfish desires. Another one you see on the airwaves, very vocal, is the mayor of San Francisco. His credentials on the subject of marriage are that he cheated on his wife to pursue a married office assistant who was in fact married to a close campaign advisor. We ought to get more up close and personal in these debates. The presidential candidates debated credentials; so should we.
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| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/12/25 19:24 Updated: 2008/12/25 19:26 |
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Andy, maybe we should establish an ACNA Speakers Bureau! The "Anglican Church in North America Speakers Bureau" has a nice ring to it!
Cennydd |
| Drummie | Posted: 2008/12/25 20:26 Updated: 2008/12/26 10:16 |
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Hey Suzy, Rick Warren is right in his characterization of abortion as WORSE than the holocost. But what would you know? Rick Warren is Christian, you on the other hand are a pretend priestess of a non Christian cult. If you don't believe me about abortion, visit Prists for Life at http://www.priestsforlife.org/. These MEN are real Priests Suzy. You might learn something if you didn't have such a closed mind.
As far as finding someone who speaks for all America, who would you choose, Jack Spong or Louie Crew? Come on Suzy, get real, no one in your organization can even speak for 10% of America and I guarantee you that Rick Warren speaks for the majority. You folks don't seem to get the message. Homosexual sex is wrong, and marriage is for one man and one woman. If you don't believe that, if you have one, get out your Holy Bible and actually read it without trying to read anything into it. You would be amazed at what you can learn. And when you speak of families, there can be NO true gay or lesbian family. It takes two opposites to reproduce Suzy. God intended it that way. You are the ones mischaracterizing, no let me rephrase that with a better statement, those of You in your orgainzation are lying through your teeth. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you and you certainly do not know how to vocalize anything but a distorted theology of death. |
| robroy | Posted: 2008/12/25 21:12 Updated: 2008/12/25 21:12 |
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Check out this video where Rick Warren visited a West Hollywood AIDS/HIV bookstore.
Spewing hate and homophobia? It is time that Rick Warren and others confront the lie that opposing the homosexual agenda is "hate." It needs to be rejected outright at every instance where it is brought up. |
| ahauber | Posted: 2008/12/25 21:15 Updated: 2008/12/25 21:15 |
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Cenny, I like it.
Andy |
| ahauber | Posted: 2008/12/25 21:26 Updated: 2008/12/25 21:26 |
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...in his characterization of abortion as WORSE than the holocost.
Drummie, I agree with you completely. The Holocaust destroyed 6 million lives while "Right to Choice" has destroyed over 40 million. "How long Lord, how long!" Andy |
| LGMarshall | Posted: 2008/12/25 22:08 Updated: 2008/12/25 22:08 |
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It's puzzling as to why Obama chose Rick Warren...because previously Rick Warren brought out the complete 'worst!' in Obama. Remember their interview...Obama:'I don't know when Life begins, & that kind of call is... 'above my paygrade'.?
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| LGMarshall | Posted: 2008/12/25 22:19 Updated: 2008/12/25 22:19 |
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Re Rev. Russell...it's good we have the Word of God to help us through the quagmire...'Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, stand firm in the faith..' 1peter8. Also-- it's encouraging to know we are in the last days...'In the last days there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires - these are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.' - Jude 18 -- And now we know what to do...'Be merciful to those who doubt; snatch others from the fire and save them..' Jude 23.
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| otispage2 | Posted: 2008/12/26 3:32 Updated: 2008/12/26 3:34 |
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God bless Bishop Harry R. Jackson. He is "selling" the Christian message!
The Rev. Susan Russell, "on the other hand", is selling the homosexual agenda. That agenda is to have TEC as a societal/religious prize, with the paramount objective to gain approval for that which God clearly condemns: same-sex sexual relations. Warren is the new "point" for the homosexual attacks along with their vicious diatribes against those who voted Yes on Prop 8! |
| Ikerliker | Posted: 2008/12/26 3:45 Updated: 2008/12/26 3:45 |
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Mzzzzzzzzz Russell never does any drive by's on here like she does over at another blog. I find that interesting. She always pops in over there, makes some ridiculous post to rile everyone up and leaves. Cennydd knows what I am talking about. It's interesting that all she can do is drop bombs and run. So typical of the intolerant left. Make ridiculous assertions, like in the case of Rick Warren, but never back up their claims with facts.
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| gregory | Posted: 2008/12/26 12:25 Updated: 2008/12/26 12:25 |
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tonys,
"it would be most appropriate if you would go to her blog if you are going to direct your comments to Russell personally. It's called An Inch at a Time." i tried that and after my third post; my account was deleted. Then i received an email telling me that; "my requested removal from the blog was granted." When i responded to the email that i had NOT requested "removal" but debate, i have yet to have received a reply back... nor to my three additional requests for restating my blog account. gregory |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/12/26 12:53 Updated: 2008/12/26 14:09 |
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Ms Susan Russell....I will NEVER refer to her as "Rev. Russell," since in the view of millions, she is NOT a priest....hasn't the courage to respond to anyone, except to do an occasional "drive-by" cheap shot at everyone who disagrees with her and her heretic friends.
She's a "leader," all right....but NOT the kind I'd care to follow! Cennydd |
| Liberty | Posted: 2008/12/26 14:23 Updated: 2008/12/26 14:23 |
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Characteristics of the Left: tend to be atheist (some putative priests), tend toward equality not liberty, and absolutely demand "Unity, Unity, Unity." Therefore Russell will always see Rick Warren as the odd man out. The Left is sick indeed.
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| daveball | Posted: 2008/12/26 23:48 Updated: 2008/12/26 23:48 |
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The pretend priestesse Russell refers to "discrimination against gay and lesbian families". Sorry woman, there is no such thing. Only perverted groupings intent on ruining more lives.
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| Strategist | Posted: 2009/1/14 2:17 Updated: 2009/1/14 2:17 |
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Drummie--
Well said and AMEN! |

















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