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DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GAY PRIDE PARADE"
News Analysis
By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
9/26/2008
A three hour public orgy of simulated sex acts, advertised gay bars, pornography vendors, male prostitution businesses with handouts to parade spectators that included condoms, sexual lubricant samples, and literature promoting a pornographic web site, were part of San Francisco's gay pride parade day that included a flotilla from the Episcopal Diocese of California and Bishop Marc Andrus.
The Episcopal Community Services, part of Andrus's diocese, solicited volunteers to work at the Folsom Street sado-masochist fair, VOL was told.
They were one of the groups that benefited from this blasphemous sex orgy. The poster was a mockery of the Last Supper. Andrus is chairman of the board of ECS.
Andrus's car wasn't far behind the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. VOL exposed the sexual activities of Mac-Iyalla in Lambeth, revealing his sexual predatory behavior with two seminarians in the course of a tour, all the while telling people that he was a victim of the Nigerian Anglican Church's homophobia. You can read the full story here: http://tinyurl.com/3zwn9k
In an article, "City Council Shames Itself Over Pride", Nicholas Owen! wrote,"The parade included 185 contingents. Many entries featured scantily clad participants, mostly men, gyrating suggestively to loud, throbbing music.
Float titles included "In Dmood for Decadence." Simulated sex acts were performed in several entries, and many advertised gay bars, pornography vendors, and male prostitution businesses.
A rider in the Rentboy.com convertible flashed the devil sign with his hand. Numerous trash receptacles bearing the slogan "Got lube?" (advertising an anal sex lubricant) were placed along the parade route and in the festival venue inside Balboa Park."
The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, a drag queen group in outlandish outfits parodying Catholic women religious, carried an "Asylum of the Tortured Heart" banner, mocking Catholic devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. At the Gay Pride festival, they provided crowd control and received an award for the "most outrageous contingent." A woman, who was topless except for pasties, walked alongside the parade.
A man, wearing a body thong covering only his genitals, roller-skated by parade watchers in defiance of municipal code which prohibits nudity on public lands and defines it as being "devoid of an opaque covering which covers the genitals, pubic hair, buttocks, perineum, anus or anal region of any person, or any portion of the breast at or below the areola thereof of any female person."
A number of churches and synagogues participated in this orgiastic display including All Saints Parish and Saint John the Beloved Cathedral of the Catholic Church of America (not affiliated with the true Catholic Church); Dignity, another group using the Catholic label but not sanctioned by the Catholic Church; Christ Chapel of North Park; Saint Paul's Episcopal Cathedral and the Metropolitan Community Church, founded by a homosexual "leatherman."
Matt Barber, Director of Cultural Affairs with Liberty Counsel and Associate Dean of the Liberty University School of Law, released the following statement regarding San Francisco's homosexual "Folsom Street Fair": "It seems almost too fantastic to believe, but it's true.
This Sunday, criminal activity and sexual perversion will once again fill San Francisco's public streets, with the shameful blessing of Mayor Gavin Newsom, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger," said Barber.
Barber continued, "During the Folsom Street Fair, hundreds, if not thousands, of fully nude men walk the public streets engaging in oral sex, sodomy, and some of the most debauched and vile acts of sadomasochism.
These outrageous activities happen in broad daylight. Children are allowed to, and do, attend this event and are witness to this nudity and public sex.
This is nothing short of child abuse. Where are the police, you ask? They're ordered to stand by and watch as this criminal activity occurs right in front of them. In the past, the San Francisco Police Department hosted a police recruiting booth at the event."
"Those who engage in this perversion - as well as Folsom Street organizers - are in clear violation of no less than three California state laws (Sections 311.6, 313 and 314 of the California Code) and perhaps more.
Each violation is punishable by up to six months in jail. Yet Mayor Newsom and the San Francisco police willfully and knowingly allow this lawlessness and vile perversion to take place in public," Barber stated.
"Newsom, Pelosi and other liberal politicians who support the Folsom Street Fair are the very same politicians who oppose California's Proposition 8, which, if passed, will abolish court-imposed 'same-sex marriage' and restore the legitimate definition of marriage as between one man and one woman.
The radical San Francisco exhibitions at the Folsom Street Fair reflect the same values responsible for imposing 'same-sex marriage' on the people of California.
The vast majority of Americans do not want San Francisco's antifamily agenda to take root in their own communities. For that reason, people across this great nation should demand that all decency laws be enforced in California and that violators be prosecuted.
Furthermore, voters in California must vote yes on Proposition 8, and the rest of America should encourage them to do so. It's not just about California. It's about saving America as we know it," concluded Barber.
The following links are provided to VOL readers but you should be warned that many of them are sexually explicit and disgusting.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5047471450268728742
The Rt. Rev. Marc Andrus California Episcopal Bishop in a recent Gay Pride Parade. He is with a known sexual predator Davis Mac-Iyalla formerly of Nigeria and a leader in Changing Attitude is seen riding in an open car with Bishop Andrus.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5047471450268728742
http://www.sfbaytimes.com/index.php?sec=article&article_id=5353
Folsom Fair Photos
NOTE: These are extremely graphic and should not be viewed by children or young adults. They come courtesy of the Catholic League
http://www.catholic.org/adv/catholicleague/folsom1.php
California Approves Public Orgy - Folsom Street Fair is Back Again
Think we don't need Proposition 8?
Think Again! www.LC.org
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| daveball | Posted: 2008/9/26 18:26 Updated: 2008/9/26 18:26 |
Home away from home   Joined: 2004/12/18 From: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2377 |
 Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA...Sadly, I guess one would expect nothing less from a group that has completely scrapped any pretense of being a church and is now assuming the role of "The Pimp of Queer". When one considers that some large percentage of the Presiding Heretic's council is queer, a measurable percentage of the HOB are either queer or switch hitters, and the presiding heretic is questionable but certainly in favor of the rumpty dumptys, this type of debauchary is inevitable. How God must weep for the fallen.
I hope every person who is even thinking about staying in TEc or "trying to change it from within" sees these despicable photos and asks themselves if they can really say "that's the church I want to be part of". |
| TENTEX | Posted: 2008/9/26 19:33 Updated: 2008/9/26 19:34 |
Home away from home  Joined: 2006/1/25 From: Murfreesboro, TN St. Patrick's (CANA) Posts: 240 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... TEC paricipation in such an event goes without saying. I would bet that similar such parades across the country would not even exist without TEC participation. Many TEC parishes also belong to "Peace and Justice" organizations which are simply front groups for Communist Party USA. At least that is the case here in Middle Tennessee. Additionally, TEC is involved in many other strange, sordid, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, and anti-American causes. As individuals, many TEC members seem like nice people. But, put them all together with their misguidedness, and it is one totally twisted and lost bunch. Too sad.
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| jfmckenna | Posted: 2008/9/26 20:07 Updated: 2008/9/26 20:08 |
Home away from home Joined: 2006/2/4 From: Posts: 584 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... To say that the diocese is "complicit" doesn't go far enough. The reality is that it is providing the moral covering that almost guarantees that civic leaders will not take the high ground.
And the nerve of this crowd suggesting that they should be given the same protections that members of ethnic and religious groups receive! How much respect would some ethnic group receive if it staged a parade with this kind of obscene and blasphemous buffoonery?! For instance, how far would the Civil Rights Movement have progressed if their demonstrations looked liked this? |
| alsdally | Posted: 2008/9/26 20:08 Updated: 2008/9/26 20:08 |
Just popping in  Joined: 2008/5/15 From: Diocese of Fredericton, Canada Posts: 11 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... This isn't gay pride, this is sin pride.
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| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/9/26 20:52 Updated: 2008/9/26 20:55 |
Home away from home  Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6862 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... No surprises here, since this perverted crap has been going on for years!
San Francisco isn't known as "Gaytown, USA" for no good reason, after all! If +Marc Andrus' participation in this "Parade of Perverts" doesn't convince the rest of the Anglican Communion that The Episcopal Church is thoroughly and unashamedly IMMORAL, then NOTHING will! It ought to be interesting to hear what Susan Russell and Company have to say about this disgusting and immoral display of filth. Just wait until the fence-sitting pew sitters and their clergy find out out about THIS! And believe me, they WILL! How about it, Susie? Cennydd |
| morrismpls | Posted: 2008/9/26 21:47 Updated: 2008/9/26 21:47 |
Home away from home  Joined: 2004/1/4 From: Posts: 496 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Sadly this is nothing new. Andrus was there last year as well amidst all the perversity.
The diocese of Minnesota advertises for volunteers for the local "Gay pride" parade as well on its web site. It's not all about "committed partnerships," it's about affirming all aspects of the "gay lifestyle." Otherwise anyone with a brain would look at this scene and reject it out of hand. |
| warmac9999 | Posted: 2008/9/26 22:11 Updated: 2008/9/26 22:13 |
Home away from home Joined: 2004/2/16 From: Posts: 1463 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Jesus came to save sinners not empower their sin. Andrus doesn't understand this concept, and it is a shame that he is an Episcopal Bishop.
It seems that everything is now a civil right - from home ownership to gay marriage. Ultimately, there are no civil rights without civil responsibilities (aka, moral restraint). |
| helpmelord | Posted: 2008/9/26 23:36 Updated: 2008/9/26 23:36 |
Quite a regular  Joined: 2008/2/5 From: Posts: 66 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Even if committed gay relationships were good, what does this gay parade event have to do with that? Its as if we were throwing a "Celebrate Marriage!" event and then had straight couples doing it in the street! I guess +Andrus is supporting gay "everything", not merely "gay marriage".
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| Radman | Posted: 2008/9/26 23:47 Updated: 2008/9/26 23:47 |
Just popping in Joined: 2006/6/16 From: Posts: 13 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA PERVERSION Somebody check the San Andrias fault! If I lived in San Francisco, I would flee for my life. God destroyed Sodom; it wouldn't be surprising if an Act of God befalls this Sin City. Paul describes these perverts well, "Though they know God's decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them but approve those who practice them." Romans 1:32
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| Sodslaw | Posted: 2008/9/27 0:28 Updated: 2008/9/27 0:28 |
Home away from home  Joined: 2007/8/3 From: Orthodox Bunker Posts: 343 |
Disgusting!!!!!!!!! But Duncan is deposed.......
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| RevDarrenS | Posted: 2008/9/27 2:00 Updated: 2008/9/27 2:00 |
Home away from home  Joined: 2007/9/24 From: Georgia, USA Posts: 213 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Does anyone need any further "proof" that the leadership of the Episcopal Church has left the Christian faith?
Just a personal observation...is that a "satin" shirt that Andrus is wearing?! This is the start, folks. The usurpation of Christianity by extreme left wing liberal fringe groups. Look what they are doing in our name? Let them be declared anathema! |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/9/27 13:19 Updated: 2008/9/27 13:19 |
Home away from home Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6862 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... I took another look at +Andrus' shirt, and it certainly DOES look like he's making a gay fashion statement, doesn't it?
And I wonder what the Pope would say if the Archbishop of San Francisco were to take part in a parade like this and in this manner? +Marc Andrus has brought shame on his "Church!" Cennydd |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/9/27 15:17 Updated: 2008/9/27 18:45 |
Home away from home Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6862 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... TBW, I'll be honest with you. I don't know +Marc Andrus, and I don't care to know him.
Personally, I don't care about the Pope's red slippers, nor do I care about Larry King's red suspenders, or +Andrus' shirt....that's their business. But first impressions do make a difference when they give one an impression which serves to indicate one's sexual preferences or inclinations. +Andrus quite obviously and openly supports homosexuality....or at least that's the impression which he gives to thousands of people. When this supposedly "Christian" bishop openly displays his support by participating in a parade of perverts practicing simulated sexual immorality before hundreds of thousands of people in San Francisco, and via the media, to millions more, what kind of reaction would you expect? +Andrus has brought shame and dishonor upon the Christian ministry....and that's not just MY opinion, but of millions more all over the world! Is it any wonder that TEC's membership is declining so rapidly? Don't just take MY word for it; check your own Church's Average Sunday Attendance figures for the last five years, and see for yourself! When my wife and I were confirmed in 1964, the membership figure for TEC was 4.1 million people, and it is now in the neighborhood of approximately 2.1 million; with an ASA of roughly 800,000. I need not tell you the reasons for this huge drop in numbers....you know them quite well if you've been paying attention. Most pew sitters haven't the foggiest idea of what is going on in the wider Episcopal Church; they're interested only in what goes on inside the four walls of their local church. I know that was true at St Francis' Church in San Jose, where my wife and I were members for 28 years. They don't care....they simply just don't care! And that's the problem! If they knew what was REALLY going on, the pews would empty in a flash! Cennydd |
| jfmckenna | Posted: 2008/9/27 15:50 Updated: 2008/9/27 16:44 |
Home away from home Joined: 2006/2/4 From: Posts: 584 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... It's always instructive to see the basis for the opposing viewpoint (the poster named Salinas). They appeal to what is humanitarian and cite the Sheperd case. For every Sheperd, there are over 500 gays that are doing things to their partners that shorten their lives. They are then moving quickly on to the next partner to do the same (even if the first partner wanted to make a relationship out of it for a while). Even if the partner is willing, the ethical violation is significant. Isn't it time to hold them accountable for harming the physical and emotional wellbeing of others? And also for parading this as something to be proud of?
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| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/9/27 20:14 Updated: 2008/9/27 23:58 |
Home away from home Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6862 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... And one other thing:
The longer The Episcopal Church espouses this kind of public spectacle, the worse things will get for them. Their membership is plummeting, parishes are leaving, and another diocese is set to leave....with two, and possibly, three more waiting to take the plunge later in November....and Schori & Company can't do a thing to stop them! Sooner or later, the pew sitters who are on the fence....along with their clergy who are also on the fence....are going to wise up to the syrupy sickly sweet concoction that's being spoon-fed to them by a slick-talking, devious, scheming, heretical Presiding "Bishop" and her sycophant lackeys in the House of Bishops. It has been said that TEC is, for all intents and purposes....a communion of their own, and I believe that that is true....while all the time they claim that they want to remain a part of the Anglican Communion! They have inferred that they don't care about what the rest of the Anglican Communion....or the rest of Christianity, for that matter....says about their unbiblical actions and innovations, because they're going to do what they please anyway....and to hell with everyone else! And while they do this, they'll claim that "God is doing a new thing." How can they claim to know the mind of God? That is impossible! What new revelation have they received that the rest of us don't know about? Cennydd |
| Ex_aedibus | Posted: 2008/9/28 2:28 Updated: 2008/9/28 9:06 |
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Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Unfortunately, the Roman Catholic bishops in California haven't done much better. Granted, they have come out in favour of banning gay marriage, but on the whole, they tend either not to want to the rock the boat or give such ambiguous teachings that it is difficult to tell exactly what the Church's moral teaching is. San Francisco in particular has suffered from this, owing to the lamentably long episcopate of Archbishop John R. Quinn as Ordinary from 1977-1995.
Quite possibly the best examples in differences between the California bishops and elsewhere are in the approaches to ministry to homosexual persons in Los Angeles and the Archdiocese of New York. The Archdiocesan Ministry to Lesbian and Gay Catholics in Los Angeles goes on a lot about talking and listening not and much else. But nowhere on their site will you find the clear Catholic teaching that homosexual orientation is disordered and that all homosexual acts are seriously sinful. (Why Catholic theology calls homosexual orientation disordered is because the acts are ordered (or tend to) an end which is always instrinsically evil. In short, homosexuality can never be a good.) During the reign of Cardinal Cooke in New York, he sought to reach out to those who had same-sex attractions, but his approach was much different from the approach of the California bishops which seems to be to not ask too many questions. Courage, a Roman Catholic apostolate to homosexual Catholics, was founded Father John Harvey, OSFS at the request of Cardinal Cooke. While not necessarily seeking to change the orientation of the people they minister to, the main goals are to enable those who have same-sex attractions to live chaste lives. Spiritual direction and regular frequenting of the sacraments (especially Holy Communion and the Sacrament of Penance) are strongly emphasized. I don't mean to blast all Catholic bishops in California. There are some, such as Bishop Weigand in Sacramento and Bishop Brom in San Diego who are solid theologically. The coadjutor bishop of Sacramento, the Most Rev. Jaime Soto, recently gave a speech at the National Association of Diocesan Gay and Lesbian Ministries at which he gently but bluntly told all those present that gay sex is a sin. Five people walked out. |
| fastball | Posted: 2008/9/28 3:47 Updated: 2008/9/28 3:47 |
Home away from home  Joined: 2006/6/29 From: Oklahoma City Posts: 555 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... "...a float featuring the Rt. Rev. Marc Andrus, Bishop of California in company with Nigerian sexual predator, Davis Mac-Iyalla former Nigerian head of Changing Attitude sitting in the back of a car waving to cheering people on sidewalks."
------------------------------------------------- "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' |
| Hesychios | Posted: 2008/9/28 4:56 Updated: 2008/9/28 4:56 |
Not too shy to talk   Joined: 2007/4/1 From: Posts: 30 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... This is a most bewildering...and depressing...thing to contemplate.
That diocese is truly lost. It is so shameful. The Anglican Communion had better cut this gangrenous appendage off before it poisons everything else.  |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/9/28 13:08 Updated: 2008/9/28 13:10 |
Home away from home Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6862 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Hesychios, I believe that what is needed is a Communion-wide exorcism of this evil.
Unfortunately, however, this will never happen as long as The Episcopal Church is permitted to exercise so much control over its finances. They have undue influence over the Communion's finances simply because they have over $10 billion in assets, and they're not afraid to use them. As we've all seen, money talks in many ways; some of which are evil, and TEC knows them all! Let's use the much-ballyhooed UN Management Development Goals as an example: Schori & Company openly brag about how much they support these goals, and these goals are, for the most part, good ones. But speaking financially, who is going to benefit the most from the financial largesse which is supposed to finance the attainment of these goals? The people who need it the most, or those companies and government officials who supposedly are going to administer the programs? It would not surprise me to learn that TEC has invested in these companies. I think the answer to that question should be obvious to anyone with common sense! Unless or until punitive action is taken against The Episcopal Church, the Anglican Communion will continue to suffer under its influence. Unfortunately, Rowan Cantuar does not seem disposed to act unfavorably towards his banker, and if the Communion is to survive, HE has to go, too! Cennydd |
| Drummie | Posted: 2008/9/28 13:18 Updated: 2008/9/28 13:18 |
Home away from home Joined: 2007/9/27 From: Posts: 512 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Just about every GLBT activist screams about rights and "freedom". What you see in these photos is not freedom in action, but license to do as you please that has become slavery to sin. TEC has become an instrument for the promotion of sin and death. If the pew sitters can not realize what the TEC is preaching, they are doomed. TEC has become an insturment of Satan and his chief representative on earth. At one time someone compared the Pope to the antichrist. I think they got the wrong person. KJS has "lived into" that role. They are condemming themselves and their followers to an eternal life of hell. Yes KJS, it DOES exist. You and your minions will know it well if these pictures are examples of your "faith".
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| sactohye | Posted: 2008/9/28 15:21 Updated: 2008/9/28 15:21 |
Just can't stay away   Joined: 2004/10/19 From: Fresno, CA, Anglican (and only) Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 73 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Any orthodox churches in the Diocese of California should get out NOW, otherwise they will be pulled down by this bishop and TEC.
sactohye |
| jackal | Posted: 2008/9/28 20:04 Updated: 2008/9/28 20:04 |
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Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Where is Christianity in these actions by this Bishop? Truly this sort of thing requires a strong stomach. He is trying for the same sort of publicity (and reputation) as Spong and Pike.
If TEC was a real church, the purges would begin here and not with real clergy such as Bishop Duncan. |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/9/28 21:16 Updated: 2008/9/28 21:19 |
Home away from home Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6862 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Oh, how I would LOVE to see Mrs Schori and her sycophant pals in the House of Bishops explain this disgusting and filthy spectacle to the rest of the Christian world!
How about it, Kate? How about it, Susan Russell? I'll bet that neither of you has the guts to tell the truth, do you? And shame on YOU, the folks of San Francisco, for letting this happen! I hope you're all proud of yourselves! Your city is a den of immorality! Where's the condemnation from the Roman Catholic Archbishop of San Francisco? His silence is deafening! Cennydd |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/9/28 22:34 Updated: 2008/9/28 22:34 |
Home away from home Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6862 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... And I say DITTO for San Diego and +Mathes!
Cennydd |
| Sandeez | Posted: 2008/9/29 2:35 Updated: 2008/9/29 2:35 |
Not too shy to talk Joined: 2007/11/29 From: Heavenly Posts: 25 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... I found it interesting on another site that the Folsom Street event is sponcered by non-other than Miller Brewing Co.I Love a good beer but doubt in the future it will be one of theirs. Adious Miller.
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| Sandeez | Posted: 2008/9/29 2:50 Updated: 2008/9/29 2:50 |
Not too shy to talk Joined: 2007/11/29 From: Heavenly Posts: 25 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... As a P.S. to the previous post this is where this info. came from.They sponcered in 2007, not sure if this applies to this years parade, bit it is worth checking out.
Folsom Street Fair Pictures September 27, 2007 Catholic Online is hosting this section of Catholic League due to traffic volume. Warning: Extremely graphic content below. Scroll down to view pictures from the Folsom Street Fair, 2003 through 2006. The fair, which was held again on Sunday, September 30, 2007, is sponsored by the Miller Brewing Company. Miller Brewing Company 3939 W Highland Blvd. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53208-2816 414-931-2000 1-800-MILLER 6 Fax: 414-931-3732 Julian Green, Miller spokesman: green.julian@mbco.com |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/9/29 12:58 Updated: 2008/9/29 15:50 |
Home away from home Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6862 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Unless the Miller Brewing Company PUBLICLY APOLOGIZES for sponsoring this disgusting spectacle of PUBLIC IMMORALITY, we should all stop buying their crummy beer....which isn't the best, anyway!
Let's say "ODIOUS, and Adios, Miller!" Cennydd |
| Sagamore | Posted: 2008/9/29 16:10 Updated: 2008/9/29 16:10 |
Just can't stay away Joined: 2007/9/10 From: Posts: 137 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... "Just wait until the fence-sitting pew sitters and their clergy find out out about THIS! And believe me, they WILL!"
Cennyd, I have to disagree with you here. It's not that these people don't know, it's that they don't want to know, and that because they simply don't care. This crisis has reached the point where it's well covered in the mainstream press and even if they just had enough interest in their own church (for whatever or any reason!) to simply Google the word 'Anglican', they could hardly escape becoming aware in short order. Believe me, I tried to make people aware in my own parish and all I got was zero interest, despite everyone I talked to saying they were against gay inclusion, etc. All they really care about is the institutional survival of their parishes as social clubs. They have no interest in the Christian faith at all. At my ex-parish, with the exception of our former rector who retired last January, their wasn't one person left (OK, there was *one* person other than myself!) who had any visible interest in the Christian religion. I spent literally *years* milling about before and after Mass, going to the coffee hour, clerking vestry meetings, attending every manner of dinners and social functions, and never heard a single word spoken-not a single one-about the Christian religion. Put it this way, in the numerous vestry discussions on getting new parishioners, whenever I brought up the wee, tiny matter of what we are to tell these prospects that we, as a parish, actually believe in regard to faith and morals, I was invariably met with looks of blank incomprehension. They just couldn't seem to comprehend why beliefs would have any bearing at all on why anyone would join a church. The matter was seen as as irrelevant and as outre and insensible as it would be for, say, a model train enthusiasts club. |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/9/29 17:14 Updated: 2008/9/29 21:44 |
Home away from home Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6862 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Sagamore, many of the fence-sitters in my former diocese of El Camino Real HAVE sat up and taken notice of what is happening in their Church, and they have already left, or are in the process of leaving....according to my contacts who are in that diocese.
True, there are many who don't want to know; they are the ones who prefer to remain Episcopalian come Hell or high water, and who are more loyal to TEC than to Christ and His Church. For them, remaining loyal to an institution with which their family has been associated for generations means everything, and they wouldn't dream of anything else, regardless of the consequences. For them, they just don't care, as you said. My former parish gradually became a social club over the years, but it wasn't like that when my family and I joined nearly thirty years ago. It became a place where wine and cheese tasting parties were the norm, and where if you weren't a part of the "in" crowd, you were subtly ignored. There were times when the name of Jesus was not mentioned in sermons for weeks at a time during the rector's sabbatical; usually when the female associate rector was in charge. Social issues were the norm in her sermons, and the attendance suffered as a result. There were times during the year when we were fortunate if there were more than 50 people in the congregation in a sanctuary designed for 250. Not half a mile from there are two non-denominational churches whose average attendance numbers 2,000, and it is obvious to anyone concerned that there is a dramatic difference: there is something seriously lacking in their Episcopal services: the lack of Christian preaching and teaching! That's all you'll hear at the other churches! Cennydd |
| DJ1943 | Posted: 2008/9/29 23:52 Updated: 2008/9/29 23:52 |
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Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Homosexual priests and rabid feminists....man what a church.
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| jfmckenna | Posted: 2008/9/30 11:33 Updated: 2008/9/30 11:33 |
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Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Cennydd,
What you described is exactly what I experienced in my NY-area Episcopal Church. I wonder -- could this financial meltdown be God's way of awakening dormant Christians? |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/9/30 17:01 Updated: 2008/9/30 17:01 |
Home away from home Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6862 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... You just may have a point there, jfmckenna!
One can but wonder if and how this meltdown will affect TEC's investments, but since they refused to say anything the last time their finances were questioned, I doubt we'll know anything more this time around. Personally, I hope they lose their shirts! Cennydd |
| patience | Posted: 2008/10/4 14:33 Updated: 2008/10/4 14:35 |
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Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... Good to see the Diocese of CA is keeping things dignified and classy....
Seriously however, David, thanks for this posting. The best disinfectant for this kind of perversion is sunlight. |
| Roland88 | Posted: 2008/10/15 17:24 Updated: 2008/10/15 17:24 |
Just popping in Joined: 2008/10/15 From: Posts: 4 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... If you could provide an address - some of us would like to send a letter to the bishop's superiors to request his removal from office.
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| Magdalen | Posted: 2008/10/16 22:10 Updated: 2008/10/16 22:10 |
Just popping in  Joined: 2008/5/17 From: East TN, USA Posts: 19 |
Re: DIOCESE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLICIT IN PERVERTED "GA... I almost moved back to San Francisco not too long ago, and I shudder when I think of it.
One of the performing groups in this gay pride parade consists of people I have fought against for the past 30+ years, leaders of which allowed a convicted child molester and those who protected him to attack and harrass me for years. This group laughs about "being evil", as though such is somehow an attractive bit of marketing. Their appearance at this most recent Market Street gay pride parade became a part of their own marketing. And yes - this is all part of a youth activity which has been built upon the pillage of an historic youth activity. I would like all of these so-called churches to answer as to how what they do can be reconciled with Jesus' admonition to GO AND SIN NO MORE. I am merely one person whom objective observers agree well might not be alive today if I would have been crushed by such people and what they do and have done. In fact, the above-mentioned child molester and his friends were hoping they could attack me - again - in order to shut me up. And one City of SF TEC female minister sits on the board of a related group, and played a part in the beginning of this fraud. Do not underestimate that there are those who know precisely what they are doing in using religion, and in calling evil good and good evil. They believe themselves superior to those trying-to-be-decent people who actually buy into their denials of what eventually becomes obvious. |
