Remodeling Hell: Americans Redefine the Doctrine
by Albert Mohler
http://www.crosswalk.com/pastors/11580607/
8/18/2008
Is belief in hell disappearing? "Absolutely," says Barnard College professor Alan Segal, author of Life After Death: A History of the Afterlife in Western Religion. Segal's remark is found within a news story released by Religion News Service. In "Belief in Hell Dips, But Some Say They've Already Been There," Charles Honey traces the transformation of hell in contemporary America.
The catalyst for Honey's article was the "U.S. Religious Landscape Survey" released this summer by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. The data do indicate a shift in beliefs concerning hell. In the Pew study, just 59 percent of those surveyed indicated belief in a concept of hell "where people who have led bad lives, and die without being sorry, are eternally punished."
That figure, Honey reports, is down from 71 percent "who said they believed in hell" as recently as a 2001 Gallup poll.
A closer look at those figures raises significant questions about the usefulness of the data. In the first place, the definition of hell as "where people who have led bad lives, and die without being sorry, are eternally punished" is a problem in itself. Evangelical Christians -- presumably among those most likely to believe in hell -- believe that hell is indeed where unrepentant humans will go, but that does not mean that the issue is having led a "bad" life. Evangelicals have historically believed that those in heaven are themselves no more worthy than those in hell. The crucial issue is faith in Christ, and thus the formulation used in the Pew study would confuse many evangelicals.
Nevertheless, no informed observer will doubt the central argument of Honey's report. Americans are redefining the doctrine of hell before our eyes. Honey provides a helpful survey of various beliefs concerning hell, but the most interesting part of his article concerns evangelicals.
He writes:
Skepticism about hell is growing even in evangelical churches and seminaries, says one theologian here, a bastion of conservative evangelicalism.
"In a pluralistic, post-modern world, students are having a more difficult time with (the idea of) people going to hell forever because they didn't believe the right thing," says Mike Wittmer, professor of systematic theology at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary.
"That's the biggest question out there right now: 'Would God send someone to hell if they were someone as good as me, but didn't believe what I believe?"'
It was easier to believe in hell 20 years ago when missionaries tried to convert people in far-flung places, Wittmer says. In today's global village, many live next to good, non-Christian neighbors and wonder why an all-powerful, loving God wouldn't eventually empty out hell, Wittmer says.
"I've noticed in the last five years how that view is making inroads even in conservative churches, whereas five years ago it wasn't even uttered or discussed," he adds.
Wittmer's observation holds true for anyone familiar with the accommodationist tendency within modern evangelicalism. The key insight within Wittmer's comments, however, is the way he lays out the populist transformation of the doctrine. Reasoning from their own experience and emotions, rather than from the Bible, many who call themselves evangelicals are just deciding that a "good" God would not send persons to hell -- at least not anyone they know.
Undoubtedly, much of this can be traced to currents in the larger culture, where non-judgmentalism, a therapeutic view of life, and a thoroughly modern view of fairness lead many to reject hell as a place of everlasting torment and punishment for those who never come to faith in Christ.
As Professor Segal observed, "They believe everyone has an equal chance, at this life and the next." Thus, "hell is disappearing, absolutely."
That this is true within the culture at large is not surprising. But when those who claim identity as evangelical Christians begin to modify the doctrine, this should set off alarms.
No doctrine stands alone. There is no way to modify belief in hell without modifying the Gospel itself, for hell is an essential part of the framework of the Gospel and of the preaching of Jesus. Hell cannot be remodeled without reconstructing the Gospel message.
Here is a sobering thought: Hell may disappear from the modern mind, but it will not disappear in reality. God is not impressed by our surveys.
Copyright All rights reserved, www.AlbertMohler.com. Used with permission. Related Links
* Going to Hell for All the Right Reasons -- Robert Smith Jr. * How can God be a God of love if He sends people to hell for eternity? * Hell Still a Popular Topic for Evangelicals -- Ginny McCabe * Franklin Graham: Let's Talk about Hell -- Thor Tolo
---Albert Mohler is President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
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| HowieG | Posted: 2008/8/19 23:03 Updated: 2008/8/19 23:03 |
Home away from home ![]() ![]() Joined: 2005/7/1 From: Central Massachusetts Posts: 231 |
Another tenet of the heresy "Moral-Relativism" has obviously established root in the minds of people: There is no Evil (except if you are a Republican.
) , therefore, there is no Hell. "God is a God of Love, and He loves us so much, it is impossible for anyone to go to Hell." Etc....I put this denial right up there with the "I am my own god" crowd. H |
| Climacus | Posted: 2008/8/19 23:04 Updated: 2008/8/19 23:04 |
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This may actually be a good sign, a sign that evangelicals are moving away from the Catholic and Calvinist doctrines of hell, which make God more like a devil than loving Father, to a position closer to Orthodoxy. In Orthodoxy hell is nothing less than God's love. What that means is, as opposed to believers who initially experience the love of God as purifying fire, and later as pure joy and peace, people in "hell" are those who experience the love of God as an unbearable, tormenting scourge. And the difference is not because God hates them, but because they hate God's love. See Alexander Kalomiros and Bp. Hilarion Alfeyev for their popular expositions on the subject.
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| krasnit | Posted: 2008/8/20 12:40 Updated: 2008/8/20 12:40 |
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Climacus:
The position on hell you represent for Orthodoxy is just one opinion found in Russian Orthodoxy. But you do misrepresent the Catholic doctrine. The Catholic doctrine speaks of hell as the eternal separation from God, with the resulting torment of "unquenchable fire" (Mk 9:43) in one's heart that burns as a longing for God's presence. |
| lkwells | Posted: 2008/8/20 12:52 Updated: 2008/8/20 12:52 |
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It is sentimental nonsense to think of hell as "a longing for God's presence." Remember that Adam and Eve did not seek God, but rather ran away from Him and tried to hide themselves. Hell is not longing for God; it is rather the eternally frustrated attempt to escape from Him. As the wonderful old spiritual says it, "There's no hiding place down there."
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| patulous | Posted: 2008/8/20 17:57 Updated: 2008/8/21 14:14 |
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At one anglican church I visited, the priest's sermon was on this subject. He said that Hell is a place not far from Heaven and the people in Hell could see into Heaven. The real Hell is the longing of the individual to be with God.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT HIM.......hell is described as "a lake of fire" in the Word. Revelation 21:7-9 NKJV, 7 He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. 8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, SEXUALLY IMMORAL, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” It is always best to believe scripture. |
| Climacus | Posted: 2008/8/21 1:56 Updated: 2008/8/21 1:56 |
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Hi Krasnit,
I'm not sure that the idea of hell I mentioned is limited to Russian Orthodoxy. True, Bp. Hilarion is Russian, but Kalomiros is Greek, and one of the most revered sources on this topic is St. Isaac the Syrian, among many others who span the Orthodox world. And while it may be one view in Eastern Orthodoxy (I'll have to take your word on that), I would also add it is the dominant view. As for the Catholic position, I'm sure there are many! Whether von Balthasar's hypothetical universalism, or that expressed in the Catechism, or that expressed in Catholic Art (think of the Sistine Chapel with Christ throwing people into hell), etc. I'm not sure how unified the Catholic view would be on this. But whatever the case, praise Christ for his sacrifice, his love and his mercy upon us sinners. |
| Peregrino | Posted: 2008/8/21 12:40 Updated: 2008/8/21 12:40 |
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Climacus,
I heard a similar teaching on hell several years back from an Anabaptist preacher in the mid-west. I found it very interesting that this teaching is well known in Orthodox Christianity and wonder if that preacher had studied Orthodox positions on the subject. |
| krasnit | Posted: 2008/8/23 13:13 Updated: 2008/8/23 13:35 |
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Hi Climacus:
Yes it is true that there are various opinions within Catholicism about what hell is like. But one issue that consists of doctrine is that hell is "the eternal separation from God" in however that obtains. I do not think the Orthodox position you mentioned is opposed to Catholicism, that hell is the rejection of God's love with the tormenting scourge that accompanies that rejection. On the contrary it fits in rather well. But now I am curious, as you speak about another related issue in Orthodoxy: purifying or cleansing fire. This sounds like the idea of purgatory in Catholicism. Again there is much speculation in Catholicism about this idea found in the Scriptures, so much opinion and uncertainty. But one thing that both Catholics and the Orthodox seem to agree on is that there is this "time" for cleansing of the soul after death. The issue is more complicated for the Anglicans because they do not share the same canon of Scriptures as Catholics and the Orthodox generally do, viz. the Septuagint (2 Maccabees 12:43-46 in this case). The Anglicans are sometimes very far removed from both the Orthodox and Catholics by accepting an ideologically edited down version of the Holy Scriptures. Is there an Anglican position of the cleansing of the soul after death? (I am not talking about indulgences- that is a whole different issue, albeit related) |








) , therefore, there is no Hell. "God is a God of Love, and He loves us so much, it is impossible for anyone to go to Hell." Etc....







