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Exclusives : LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," says North African Bishop
Posted by David Virtue on 2008/8/1 23:10:00 (2268 reads)

LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," says North African Bishop

By Hans Zeiger in Canterbury
www.virtueonline.org
August 1, 2008

CANTERBURY-The soft-spoken Bishop of Egypt, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa today stated his outrage at the "great wall being put up by the revisionists" at the Lambeth Conference. The Rt. Rev. Mouneer Anis, also a medical doctor, said that the Communion's divisions over homosexuality are symptomatic of "a much deeper illness."

In an afternoon press conference at the University of Kent, Bishop Anis explained that he decided to attend the decennial Lambeth Conference "to debate and discuss with those I agree with and don't agree with." But after two weeks of "Indaba" discussion group sessions and meetings with the Archbishop of Canterbury to repair the broken Anglican Communion, Anis admitted his uneasiness.

"I see a great wall being put up by revisionists against those orthodox who believe in the authority of Scripture," Anis wrote in a separate printed statement that he distributed to the press. "The revisionists among us push upon us the view that current secular culture and not the Bible should shape our mission and morals. In this we are not divided by mere trivialities, or issues on the periphery of faith but on essentials. I am shocked to say that we are finding it very hard to come together on even the essentials of the faith we once received from the Apostles."

Case in point: the massive in-your-face presence of Anglican homosexual activists at Lambeth. "Everywhere we go here, we meet gay & lesbian activists, receive their news letters or read about their many events. Many seem to be supported by North American churches. They are intent to push their agenda on us. No other lobbying groups seem to enjoy similar access, or to be able to have their literature prominently displayed all over the campus and at the entrance to every residence. They are determined that their way is the only right way and that everyone else should follow."

Anis has had enough of the "advocacy of unscriptural practices." He diagnosed sexual obsession as "a new form of slavery: a slavery to modern secular culture and to immoral desires and lusts."

Some people, he said, would have the church "be driven by the culture, not by the Scripture. If we allow this to happen, we would lose our distinctiveness as a church."

Anis said that opposition to a proposed Anglican Covenant is coming from North Americans who have determined their own agenda apart from orthodox Anglicans. He said that the North American resistance to the larger Communion reminds him of America's "arrogance" in Iraq. The North Americans "don't want anyone else in the world telling them what to do," he said. "They really want to push this lifestyle on us."

Anis said that he chose not to attend last month's Global Anglican Future Conference in the Holy Land because "I was concerned that GAFCON would be a separate movement." But he said that GAFCON "had a lot of positive outcomes, and it was useful for this conference."

Anis holds out hope that the Anglican Communion can be preserved as The Episcopal Church and the Anglican Church of Canada "withdraw from international Anglican Councils and bodies. This will create a safe distance for them to consider their priorities, while also allowing the wider communion to move forward with its shared priorities and mission and to clear away the mess created by the current crisis."

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ZachD
Posted: 2008/8/2 8:18  Updated: 2008/8/2 8:25
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 Re: LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," ...
Missing from this equasion is the behind-the-scenes subtelty of revisionism in the UK and other unmentioned provinces.

Our ABC has acted in the long term to secure a place for the inclusive and revisionist crowd - the grouping to which he himself belongs.

The marginalization and the 'tossing out' of the faithful orthodox, will pick up apace when Lambeth is done.

It has been reported here that Canadian bishops have said they will 'wax aggressive' with the gay agenda once they arrive home.

GAFCON is preparing their post-Lambeth statement and plan. This is going to be quite a year!
DomWalk
Posted: 2008/8/2 8:18  Updated: 2008/8/2 8:18
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 Re: LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," ...
David, if you'd used his name in the headline, it would have been perfect...



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CityTroope
Posted: 2008/8/2 9:52  Updated: 2008/8/2 9:52
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Joined: 2004/12/2
From: Rosemont, PA
Posts: 148
 Re: LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," ...
When TEC stops pretending to be Christian, I will stop pretending to be episcopalian.
jfmckenna
Posted: 2008/8/2 12:22  Updated: 2008/8/2 12:22
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 Re: LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," ...
"slavery to modern secular culture" -- brilliantly accurate
daveball
Posted: 2008/8/2 12:49  Updated: 2008/8/2 12:49
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 Re: LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," ...
Absolutely - the war will begin in earnest when the last candle at Lambeth is snuffed and the last homosexual couple departs. Expect Queen Schori to begin deposition proceedings against Bishop Duncan, for example. I think she may have been planning to wait until the Diocese of Pittsburgh actually votes to leave on October 4 but, considering the stinging defeat at Lambeth for her despicable cause, I suspect she will start as soon as she unpacks her tie-dye vestments and quaffs a couple mean pills. Expect the Dioceses of California and Massachusetts to begin queer weddings and blessings in concert with newly placed state laws. Canada will begin suffering frost bite of the brain in August as the Bp. of Westminster will be unable to contain himself and will countenance SSBs very quickly. All this is necessary, from their prospective, to try to re-establish the initiative.

On the other side, I would expect the Southern Cone to accelerate the distancing of themselves and TEc and ACC. Bp. Orombi's statements are only the first of many to come.

The big unknown, unfortunately, is what GAFCON and/or FOCA will do. The words are brave and true. Action, so far, is missing. The challenges are great and any indication as to how they will address those challenges is not in evidence yet. There is no agreement as to what orthodox Anglicanism is or how it is manifest at a functional level. Women's ordination, for example, will not go away and it is not a "tier two" problem. The issue of existing female clergy is as yet unadressed. The whole spectrum of where Evangelicals and Anglo-catholics fit into the big picture is yet to be resolved, and it must be. There are prayer book issues. There are theological issues. If this isn't enough, there is the impending issue of how to deal with the inevitable TEc litigation.

It is my view that there is little time to "let things settle out". If the issues are not addressed quickly, further fracture will appear and it will not be beneficial to the orthodox movement as a whole.

The debacle of Lambeth is just an opening salvo in the coming battle. May God give us the strength and wisdom to do His will.
Howell
Posted: 2008/8/3 1:15  Updated: 2008/8/3 1:15
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 Re: LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," ...
Uh-oh. The "Ugly American" used to to just be U.S. tourists. Now the "Ugly American" is TEC Bishops telling how the rest of the world ought to act sexually.
Ikerliker
Posted: 2008/8/3 14:21  Updated: 2008/8/3 14:21
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 Re: LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," ...
Nothing has changed. TEc and Canada will thumb their noses at the rest of the Communion and do whatever they please. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the persecutions will begin afresh as soon as Mrs. Schori unpacks.

Millions of dollars were wasted. ++Akinola was 100% correct in saying it would be an "Episcopal Jamboree" and he would have no parts of it.

This whole process makes me physically ill!

Somebody better fire a shot across the bow and soon or this nonsense will drag on for another 10 years but if something doesn't change soon, I'm outta here.
ZachD
Posted: 2008/8/5 15:51  Updated: 2008/8/5 15:51
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 Re: LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," ...
Umm, daveball,

There's warmth in Canada, honest.

But meanwhile, south of the border, DBB will be ready for KJS with an armful of tasks for the next phase. It has been plan, plan, plan; with the distant news out of Kent to feed the beast.


Charming.
Canada will get busy, too. Have no fear.
aterry
Posted: 2008/8/7 18:20  Updated: 2008/8/7 18:20
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Joined: 2006/6/19
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 Re: LAMBETH: Liberals Erecting "A Great Wall," ...
Blessings on the house of ++Anis for his courage and "Spiritual Spine". If the ABC apoke and acted with a fraction of that type of courage, TEC and, and TEC-North (Canada) would have been shown the door.
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