CANTERBURY: Archbishop of Canterbury Seeks Lambeth Compliant Partners from Global South
News Analysis
By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
7/25/2008
A rival Global South movement is being set up here in Canterbury in an attempt to divide and conquer the Global South movement. A Lambeth compliant "Communion Partners" movement is being encouraged in an effort to isolate mainstream evangelical and Anglo-Catholics who number 40 million of the 55 million church-going Anglicans throughout the world.
Between 150 and 200 bishops from 17 provinces of the Anglican Communion met, last Tuesday at the Kent University campus, with a number of North Americans.
Among the speakers were bishops Michael Scott-Joynt (Winchester), Tom Wright (Durham) and Bob Duncan (Pittsburgh) moderation of Common Cause Partnerships. The Rt. Rev. Ian Ernest, chair of CAPA spoke and Presiding Bishop Mouneer Anis addressed the gathering speaking about of the 2009 Global South Conference. They are to meet again, thought this is not certain, a source told VOL.
Senior members of the Global South Primates who are not here include Archbishops Peter Akinola, (Nigeria), Emmanuel Kolini (Rwanda), Benjamin Nzimbi (Kenya) and Henry Luke Orombi (Uganda), majority representatives of the Global South.
The design of this Lambeth Global South group of primates and bishops, which comes with the full support of Dr. Williams, is to blunt the Global South group of Primates who met in Jerusalem recently. That group includes Archbishops Peter Akinola, Peter Jensen, Gregory Venables, Emmanuel Kolini, Benjamin Nzimbi and Henry Luke Orombi and Valentine Mokiwa (Tanzania).
The list of 17 provinces of GAFCON includes Hong Kong, South Korea, North India, West Africa, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Southeast Asia, Myanmar (Burma) Papua New Guinea, Jerusalem/ Middle- East, South India, Burundi, the Southern Cone, West Indies, Central Africa and the Philippines.
Together they represent approximately 6 million Anglicans. Deeply involved in this group is said to be Archbishop John Chew of Singapore, Secretary of the Global South Group and Bishop Mouneer of Egypt who is treasurer and whose chairman is Archbishop Peter Akinola. Ironically the Assistant Bishop of Singapore, the Rt. Rev. Rennis Ponniah is not present at Lambeth.
The Rt. Rev. Albert Vun, Bishop of Sabah is also not present at Lambeth, although he was present at GAFCON and the ANiC ordinations in Vancouver. Archbishop John Chew did not attend GAFCON. John Chew is a member of the group who produced the St Andrews Draft Covenant, which has been critiqued by the Theological Resource Group of GAFCON. Archbishop Chew, as Bishop of Singapore, has the resources to make this happen.
Dr. Michael Nai Chiu Poon, a priest in the Diocese of Singapore who writes on the website "Global South Anglican", supports this initiative.
He has been particularly critical of the emergence of GAFCON. "I am saddened and shocked by the Statement on '"The Global Anglican Future Conference, June 15-22, The Holy Land'", he wrote at his blog. "On what basis was the Statement "announced by Orthodox Primates"? What is the basis of orthodoxy? Historically, the Communion takes Canon A5 "Doctrine of the Church of England" and C15 "On the Preface to the Declaration of Assent" of the Church of England as the basis of its belief.
"This underpins Section 2 ("The Faith we share") of the proposed Anglican Covenant. On what basis did the Primates of Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda, Southern Cone, and Tanzania declare themselves as orthodox primates?" he asks. "For some, it may remain unclear what '"Global South'" and its cluster of related terms stand for, and which churches it represents. Is it a movement, a power-bloc, a lobby, or an ultra-conservative group that centres on certain personalities?"
The formation of a new Lambeth Global South movement in Canterbury would be designed to reinforce Williams' leadership of the Anglican Communion giving support to his policy of non-action in the face of the actions of the U.S. Episcopal Church. Archbishop Williams' underlying strategy is to produce an inclusive church that will sideline evangelicals of the Global South who reject the theological and moral relativism that has emerged in Global Anglicanism.
Chris Smith, the Archbishop of Canterbury's aide de camp is reported to have met with Archbishop John Chew of Southeast Asia and Presiding Bishop Mouneer Anis of Jerusalem and the Middle East -- leaders of center right Communion Partners group, and Presiding Bishop Gregory Venables of the Southern Cone - a member of the more traditionalist GAFCON primates' council. The Bishop of Durham and other English bishops also met with the primates to formalize a way forward for conservatives amidst the chaos of the Anglican Communion and the unfolding train wreck of the Lambeth Conference.
The two conservative factions currently disagree on the best way of responding to the crisis of doctrine and discipline within the Anglican Communion. The GAFCON wing, led by seven primates and comprising over 60 percent of the Communion's members, are seeking to reform the Anglican Communion and affirm that Anglican doctrine rather than recognition by the Archbishop of Canterbury is the basis of Anglican identity.
The difference between the "Communion Partner" primates and the GAFCOIN primates can best be summed up in the words of Chew when he spoke to the Church Times, "Whether you like it or not, Canterbury has got to take the lead, and we pray for him and wish him well." Archbishop Chew said that he expressed strong support for the recent Sudan statement.
Mrs. Katharine Jefferts Schori, TEC Presiding Bishop was recently overheard to say that TEC could not only stand for The Episcopal Church but also for The Episcopal Communion, a direct swipe at the Archbishop of Canterbury saying, in so many words, that if The Episcopal Church is any way disciplined or ostracized by the Lambeth Conference of bishops, she will simply announce her own communion with some 16 provinces, all of whose flags flew at the 2006 General Convention in Indianapolis.
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| otispage2 | Posted: 2008/7/25 11:01 Updated: 2008/7/25 11:02 |
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"if The Episcopal Church is any way disciplined or ostracized by the Lambeth Conference of bishops (Schori) will simply announce her own communion with some 16 provinces,"
ABC faces schism no matter what political tactic he utilizes to divide and conquer. It is a question of the rule served that best honors the preservation of the "faith once given' and the honoring at Lambeth 2008 that which was determined against the homosexuals at Lambeth 1998. Schori's new Communion would soon become oblivious! |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/7/25 11:19 Updated: 2008/7/25 11:19 |
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She might as well do it and get it over with, and save us all a lot of trouble!
The Episcopal Communion already exists, so why not announce it publicly and make it official? Cennydd |
| Fisherman | Posted: 2008/7/25 11:31 Updated: 2008/7/25 11:31 |
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A rival Global South movement exists by virtue of their showing up at Lambeth. They might also note that the GS group that attended GAFCON did not simple reject the St. Andrew's draft to the Anglican Covenant; they rejected it.
It seems the ABC and his cohorts are attempting to develop a propaganda point for the closure of this Lambeth gathering. And this "group" is certainly in the minority if they oppose the heading the rest of the GS is taking. What would take the wind out of the ABC’s sails is for the GAFCON primates council to recognize the CCP as a north American province, name a primate, and get on with it – while Lambeth is in session. If military tacticians moved at the pace of the Anglican Communion, we'd still be wondering how to cross the Delaware. ![]() |
| Gander | Posted: 2008/7/25 11:32 Updated: 2008/7/25 11:32 |
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"The Episcopal Communion already exists"
Don't forget: TEC = The Episcopal Club. It is run like a club, promotes itself like a club, and looks like a club. It IS a club. Don |
| ejsteele | Posted: 2008/7/25 11:32 Updated: 2008/7/25 11:32 |
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I'm confused. Is Bp. Duncan for GAFCON as indicated by the statement from Common Cause, or is he for some other form of orthodox fellowship as this article mentions? I don't know the man, so I am asking if someone here knows where he stands in all this.
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| UKUSER | Posted: 2008/7/25 11:40 Updated: 2008/7/25 11:40 |
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The iniquity deepens - anyone interested in the sinister socio-spiritual dynamics present at Lambeth are welcome to refer to my article 'United to What?' found near the top of my homepage at www.geocities.com/midrashcreed
It's an analytical piece which should help complement the excellent journalism provided by DV and other sources. Plenty of summaries have been included to help non-academic readers. |
| sentinel | Posted: 2008/7/25 12:50 Updated: 2008/7/25 12:50 |
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Like sands through the hour glass...so are the days of our lives...
What a soap opera. ![]() |
| AnamK | Posted: 2008/7/25 12:57 Updated: 2008/7/25 12:57 |
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David could you post a copy of +Bob Duncan's speech?
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| gilderoy | Posted: 2008/7/25 13:03 Updated: 2008/7/25 13:03 |
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Steady, y'all! Nothing all that surprising in this. Remain mindful of the fact that GAFCon explicitly recognizes and respects the historic role of the ABC (an olive branch). But the group made it clear that it will recognize Bob Duncan and the Partnership even if +++he does not (a big stick).
Just because a bunch of conservative Anglicans said they were out of line down in the City of David don't make it so. Give Bob Duncan &co. a chance to work through the situation. Maybe the ACI can step in and take credit for the good that comes from all this! |
| ejsteele | Posted: 2008/7/25 13:49 Updated: 2008/7/25 13:49 |
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gilderoy:
Your comments are valid, which brings me back to my question: does anyone here really know where +Duncan (or anyone else) stands on all of this? Could this be a way for the Common Cause Partnership to become a means by which the orthodox can separate from TEC cleanly, stay within the Communion, and be fully recognized by Canterbury? I don't know. It just seems to me that there are quite a few meetings taking place, but no one seems to know what is really being discussed. I don't want to speculate which is why I'm asking for clarification. Ed |
| patulous | Posted: 2008/7/25 13:53 Updated: 2008/7/25 13:56 |
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Quote: "that if The Episcopal Church is any way disciplined or ostracized by the Lambeth Conference of bishops she will simply announce her own communion with some 16 provinces, all of whose flags flew at the 2006 General Convention in Indianapolis."
I truly hope that schoria does resign from canterbury and draw all the heretical provinces to her control. Just think, the ABC would finally see that he is just a JOKE! The rest of the provinces would demand and get rid of WO and homos or create their own communion also, much to canterbury's surprise. It would be good riddance to the devil's church and so long to the influence that they have over the other churches. It would be a lonely place for schoria. Her troubles would just start, with all the other TEC churches that want to leave taking action on their desires. |
| Fisherman | Posted: 2008/7/25 13:55 Updated: 2008/7/25 13:55 |
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+Duncan is the proposed bishop to be seated on the primate's council: http://www.united-anglicans.org/stream/2008/07/jerusalem-declaration.html
Also, see the GAFCON rejection of the St. Andrew's covenant: http://www.anglican-nig.org/forward/Draft%20Covenant.pdf "we find ourselves unable to endorse the St Andrews Draft of An Anglican Covenant" |
| deaconM | Posted: 2008/7/26 2:16 Updated: 2008/7/26 2:16 |
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+Duncan wasn't at GAFCON, he was celebrating his 60th birthday in Europe with friends. The moderator of the CCP is the one recommended for seating on the primates council. Don't be surprised if the present moderator is not the one when the province comes to fruition. My bet is on Minns.
M+/ |
| dvirtue | Posted: 2008/7/26 7:45 Updated: 2008/7/26 7:45 |
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There was an error in including Bishop Duncan's name. It has been removed. My apologies for the error.
David W. Virtue VIRTUEONLINE |
| gilderoy | Posted: 2008/7/26 11:06 Updated: 2008/7/26 11:06 |
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Ed,
While the point may now be moot, Bob Duncan's views look something like this: 1. He would gladly work within TEC structures if the HOB ever TRULY and earnestly repented they of their sins, and were in love and charity with their neighbor and intended to lead a new life following the commandments of God, and walking from henceforth in his holy ways. 2. But he has stated on several occasions that he is fully aware that the corruption is so bad that this WILL NOT happen. And so it is time to break communion with the schismatics. Face it, TEC is now a Metropolitan Church vested with lots and lots of money and, for the most part, scripturally ignorant families who have no idea of the danger they subject themselves and children to. If I had to choose between the two cults, I would be attending with the Mormons. |
| RMBruton | Posted: 2008/7/26 11:26 Updated: 2008/7/26 11:26 |
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Sentinel,
Didn't you mean The Days of Our Lies? |
| RMBruton | Posted: 2008/7/26 11:27 Updated: 2008/7/26 11:27 |
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David,
What can you tell us about the proposed "Anglican Holy Office" or Anglican Inquisition as its being called? |
| misfit | Posted: 2008/7/26 14:29 Updated: 2008/7/26 14:29 |
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When GAFCON are accused of claiming the whole truth, this is a lie. What they are saying is that the little bit of truth that they do have that is sufficient for salvation is true truth. As for Her Majesty's Anglican Church, that is merely an instrument of the present marxist government, it will use the same instruments of oppression as Stonewall: fines, public humiliation, loss of job and assets in order to keep its flock bleating the same tune.
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| Rheingold | Posted: 2008/7/26 15:17 Updated: 2008/7/26 17:33 |
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| misfit | Posted: 2008/7/26 16:40 Updated: 2008/7/26 16:40 |
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The true voice of a intolerant, militant, born again christophobe: heavy on personal insult and light on reasoned argument. Of course there were actively sinful bishops in the past, but at least they had enough sense of shame to keep to hide it.; this a blatant flaunting of behaviour that mocks God and for which death can be the only consequence
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| Rheingold | Posted: 2008/7/26 16:59 Updated: 2008/7/26 17:34 |
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| DomWalk | Posted: 2008/7/27 3:53 Updated: 2008/7/27 3:53 |
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Nobody expects the Anglican Inquisition! :-)
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| MichaelA | Posted: 2008/7/27 6:51 Updated: 2008/7/27 6:51 |
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"The design of this Lambeth Global South group of primates and bishops, which comes with the full support of Dr. Williams, is to blunt the Global South group of Primates who met in Jerusalem recently."
No doubt. The first priority of ++Williams and other prelates is to protect their own cozy positions in the Church of England. The biggest threat to their positions is that orthodox primates will offer alternative episcopal to English congregations, as they have done to American congregations. That support alone can give orthodox laity and clergy the courage to speak out against the encroachments of Liberalism. The English hierarcy will see this setting up of an alternative Global South group as a means of confusing faithful Anglicans in England, so that they do not know from whom to seek help. Pray that, whatever happens, faithful congregations clergy and individuals in England will refuse to be intimidated, and will take a courageous stand against liberalism in their own church. |
| MichaelA | Posted: 2008/7/27 7:02 Updated: 2008/7/27 7:02 |
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"Deeply involved in this group is said to be Archbishop John Chew of Singapore, ... Ironically the Assistant Bishop of Singapore, the Rt. Rev. Rennis Ponniah is not present at Lambeth. The Rt. Rev. Albert Vun, Bishop of Sabah is also not present at Lambeth, although he was present at GAFCON and the ANiC ordinations in Vancouver. Archbishop John Chew did not attend GAFCON."
There is great division within the Province of South East Asia. In 2000, its former Primate, ++Yong Ping Chung helped to form AMiA, and in 2001 he co-consecrated AMiA bishops. He was severely criticsed by some of his clergy for doing this. The new Primate, John Chew, is a political animal, and probably a liberal sympathiser, along the lines of the ABC. The division has extended to Gafcon and Lambeth: Whilst ++Chew and three of his bishops are at Lambeth, the fourth bishop (+Vun of Sabah) and ++Chew's assistant bishop in Singapore (+Ponniah) have both boycotted Lambeth, and many SE Asia clergy support them. Pray for SE Asia that God will strengthen the hand of the orthodox and confound the Liberals. |
| FrLarry | Posted: 2008/7/27 9:01 Updated: 2008/7/27 9:01 |
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I for one would be very interested in knowing who heard Ms Schori make the statement of her taking the "The Episcopal Communion" of of the Anglican Communion. The question needs to be directed to Schori specifically (on the record) as to her intentions to take Tec out of the Anglican Communion given any discipline that might be directed toward Tec. Given this possible fact, this should also be grounds for her presentment as much as it would for any other bishop who is suspected of doing the same. Isn't Bob Duncan the target for being suspect of this action? Isn't this why Schori has been working so hard to get rid of him quickly? Please advise...
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| badcat | Posted: 2008/7/28 18:58 Updated: 2008/7/28 18:58 |
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Bring the COMFY CHAIR!
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| badcat | Posted: 2008/7/28 19:02 Updated: 2008/7/28 19:02 |
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Bring the STUFFED PILLOWS! And the stuffed shirts too. And rolls and rolls of flannel. An excruciating death by boredom unless you all recant and swear to having no firm position on anything whatsoever. 'Do as thou wilt' shall be the whole of the law for piskies from now on.
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