JERUSALEM: Former Guardian Religion Writer Rips GAFCON Gathering of Orthodox Anglicans
News Analysis
By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
6/27/2008
In an article titled "Vicious hot air currents: Homosexuality is a useful unifier for the conservative flocks who agree on very little else", former Religion beat writer for the Guardian, Stephen Bates (who can't seem to leave religion alone now that a Muslim woman has taken over his old job) has come out blasting a gathering of Global South Anglican leaders meeting in Jerusalem.
In a ruthless assault on the 1,200 Evangelical Anglicans attending GAFCON, including 303 bishops from 38 countries, Bates launched into a blistering ad hominum attack on the primates of Nigeria and Uganda, as well as the Bishop of Rochester, the Rt. Rev. Michael Nazir-Ali.
He writes: "The rhetoric of the gathering of conservative churchmen in Jerusalem seeking to wrest control of worldwide Anglicanism from Dr Rowan Williams, is already spiralling upwards on a vicious current of hot air."
He said the archbishops of Nigeria and Uganda are denying that gays are ever persecuted in their countries - and have failed to find the words to condemn the violence if they are. He said these voices are calling for biblically lethal punishment for homosexuals; and lip-smacking assertions that the old church has fallen prey to apostasy, brokenness and turmoil, in its attempt to "acquiesce to destructive modern, cultural and political dictates.
"Homosexuality is a useful unifier for conservative flocks. The little-noticed irony is that those meeting in Jerusalem agree on very little else."
Bates blames it on US money and "power" as well as conservatives. "What is happening is a power struggle in which the conservatives of the US church - and, to a lesser extent, English evangelicals - have summoned up the developing world to seize the church from the forces of liberalism and relativism. If the battle over gays is lost, they say, everything is lost. The visit of many African bishops to the conference has been facilitated by US money."
In a final cynical outburst, Bates writes, "The trouble with the coalition of interests is they have Got Religion. Theirs is an insurgency united in what they don't like - homosexuality - and elevating it to a litmus test of orthodoxy in a way that other divisive theological issues - divorce, say, or women's ordination - have not been. They don't know gay people, and what they think they know of them is viscerally distasteful."
The lies and half- truths of Bates' blast must not go unanswered. Just as the new Guardian religion writer, Riazat Butt has tried time and again at every press conference to turn this conference into a gay-bashing, homophobic event (the rest of the press just roll their eyes), forcing African bishops to make statements about homosexuality that she can turn into screaming headlines, Bates' rip goes even further.
The truth is this conference has NEVER addressed homosexuality, either in private or public plenary sessions. It is not a "unifier". They recognize that the consecration of an openly homoerotic bishop to the episcopacy in 2003 was a communion-breaking event, with the Episcopal Church continually defying and flouting Lambeth 1998 Resolution 1:10, ignoring the findings of the Windsor Report, defying its own canons and constitutions and twisting its canons to inhibit and depose orthodox bishops, all of which Mr. Bates dutifully ignores.
African archbishops have never said there were not homosexuals in their countries. An African Archbishop here publicly acknowledged that there were, but he also said that the behavior is unacceptable to their public life of the state. Furthermore, the two occasions where Changing Attitude leader Colin Coward and his homoerotic Nigerian side-kick Davis Mac-Iyall accused the Nigerian church of violence towards homosexuals, have turned out to be totally false. The ABC who joined in the condemnation never apologized!
As far as money is concerned, Archbishop Peter Akinola publicly stated here that his church raised $1.2 million in the three weeks before coming to GAFCON. "We paid for some Americans to come." His statement was greeted with wild applause. The "chicken dinner" argument, by Massachusetts Suffragan Bishop Barbara Harris that African bishops were bought off at Lambeth 1998 by Americans with deep pockets, was a lie then and is a lie today though it is constantly repeated by liberals and pansexualist Episcopal bloggers.
As far as power is concerned, no church in the history of Christendom has used its power and money to sue, excoriate, and ruthlessly rip and tear orthodox priests from their parishes than the revisionist leadership of The Episcopal Church.
They are spending millions of dollars from coast to coast going after parish priests and their properties, threatening bishops who might want to compromise and giving liberal bishops money to litigate wherever they can to keep empty properties from falling into orthodox Anglican hands. In fact, Mrs. Jefferts Schori said, at the trial of a dozen properties in Virginia who have left TEC, that she would sooner see parishes sold for "saloons" than allow them to fall into the hands of Anglican Church plants in the U.S.
And they are doing it to the very people who believe the gospel, want to uphold the faith once for all delivered to the saints, and can make churches grow. Furthermore, when the diocese do get the properties, they are forced to close them because they cannot be kept open with a handful of parishioners. Bates writes that despite the huffing, the Africans don't want to leave Anglicanism: in the old evangelical phrase, it's a convenient boat to fish from. Many other Anglicans would like to see them go.
Really. The ABC is desperately trying to hold the Communion together. He has pled time and again that every bishop should show up for Lambeth (except of course for the ones he won't and refuses to invite). VOL has learned that he hopes San Joaquin Bishop John-David Schofield won't show up at all. He has now invited Jerry Lamb, the wannabe faux Episcopal Bishop of San Joaquin who Mrs. Jefferts Schori parachuted into the diocese. She has said he will come.
The battle being fought here for the soul of the Anglican Communion is about the authority of Scripture, recognizing the creeds, the 39 Articles, the Articles of Religion and the Lambeth Quadrilateral as binding on Anglicans. Sodomy is a symptom of the problem, not the disease itself.
The Church of England, which Bates says he no longer attends because he has lost his faith over the church's failure to actively promote sodomy from its pulpits, is in free fall with 500 plus Anglo-Catholic priests threatening to split from the church if women priests are consecrated bishops. The CofE's evangelicals are threatening to no longer financially support liberal bishops.
Bates' rip and tear is a pathetic, xenophobic response to a church which has lost its spiritual way, is laughably no bigger than one Nigerian diocese, has no authority worth talking about, and may well find itself totally out of business in the next 30 years, run over by a galloping, strident Islam and increasing societal secularism. Bates is welcome to it. The evangelicals are triumphing precisely because they have a gospel to proclaim - a gospel that Mr. Bates doesn't believe in. The "vicious hot air currents" are all coming out of The Guardian and Mr. Bates' laptop.
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| daveball | Posted: 2008/6/27 12:28 Updated: 2008/6/27 12:28 |
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Absolutely amazing what can happen when someone is off their meds. This guy is delusional.
I would agree that the issue of homosexuality is over emphasized in the debate but it is not overemphasized by the conservatives. The liberals seem to have little else to talk about so they revert to the tried and true cries of "homophobia" as the root of all evil. They certainly cannot discuss theology because they have none. They can't discuss mission except in terms of lawsuits filed and priests deposed. The only gospel they quote is the UN MDGs. If you want to champion the failed ECUSA and liberal Anglicanism, be my guest, Mr. Bates, but do not make the mistake of attacking good and Godly men. You are simply not in their league. |
| jfmckenna | Posted: 2008/6/27 13:26 Updated: 2008/6/27 13:26 |
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But, now, isn't all this kind of rhetoric inevitable? And it's partly our own fault because we haven't addressed the humanitarian side of the homosexual issue, but only the theological side, or not at all, as in Gafcon. That leaves us wide open for those who want to paint us as being merely negative and judgmental. Let's take another look at what we're communicating and how.
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| patulous | Posted: 2008/6/27 13:46 Updated: 2008/6/27 13:48 |
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David Virtue did a good job of showing what Bates' true virtue is......being wormie, lost in the past and always a party to Colin Coward and Riazat Butts. (Can you believe those names?)
I am always amazed how much time the conservatives take up denying the lies of these three. Bates, Coward and Butts spew out the most distant rhetoric and all it far fetched. The US gets blamed for causing the poor homo's trouble. The only money comes from SCHORIA of TEC.....go figure. |
| Ex-Dilbert | Posted: 2008/6/27 13:50 Updated: 2008/6/27 13:51 |
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"Dog Bites Man" story. Totally predictable. Same old rehashed crapola from the loony left.
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| jfmckenna | Posted: 2008/6/27 15:43 Updated: 2008/6/27 15:43 |
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Gregory's very apropos point is an important part of the humanitarian message and, I would argue, supports the authority of Scripture just as well as does any theological argument. Another part of the humanitarian message is that everybody in the upcoming generation craves the psychological stability of a mother's influence balanced by a father's influence. The myth that gender is strictly biological is social dangerous and throoughly unbiblical. If we don't start communicating these thing forcefully, we will deserve all we get from the likes of that writer from the Guardian.
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| otispage2 | Posted: 2008/6/27 16:16 Updated: 2008/6/27 16:17 |
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One must not confuse subjective "gay bashing" with objective "Homosexual Agenda bashing", the legitimate reason to criticize the momentum of the homosexual incursion!
Individual homosexuals may honestly struggle with their sin -- and the church stands with open arms, in the name of Christ and God’s love (Rom 5:5), to help them! But homosexuals advocating and pushing the Homosexual Agenda resort to the exercise of lies to change both the religious and secular cultures that hold homosexual behavior to be wrong in a secular sense and a debilitating sin in the religious. |
| ctowles | Posted: 2008/6/27 17:35 Updated: 2008/6/27 17:35 |
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"Mrs. Jefferts Schori said, at the trial of a dozen properties in Virginia who have left TEC, that she would sooner see parishes sold for "saloons" than allow them to fall into the hands of Anglican Church plants in the U.S."
This is a God hating woman out of control. Someone will put her legacy on her tombstone as Diocleation's victims did to him. Diocleation's persecutions of the Christians were so great that some eastern orthodox churches date time from the persecutions of Diocleation. What time is it? Schori Perdition Savings Time. |
| jfmckenna | Posted: 2008/6/27 17:41 Updated: 2008/6/27 17:41 |
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I'm all for bashing the gay agenda, and in fact, we should be more aggressive about it. That's why I think we should come on strong saying that their agenda is cruel and destructive and ours is humanitarian -- which has the additional advantage of being true. Anthing less than this is playing defense.
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| gregory | Posted: 2008/6/27 17:52 Updated: 2008/6/27 18:07 |
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Another big Thank you to David Virtue for sharing the view from "there". Bet David will be glad to get home and Go Fishin.
![]() Bates writes; quote "They don't know gay people, and what they think they know of them is viscerally distasteful. unquote" Mmmm, well everyone is learning; AIDS fight drains health care cash-- AIDS groups are wasting billions of dollars annually on programs directed at the general public, ... Effectively preventing the spread of HIV means spending money on “services for junkies, sex workers and gay men. In short, people in these high-risk groups account for more than 80 per cent of HIV infections. And the greatest numbers of new infections continue to be among gay men. TEc is also wasting millions on millions and then add in the lost opportunity cost to the equation. The statistics are revealing in many areas ... Hind sight is 20/20 ... jfmckenna, i give you one of the links that help us address the humanitarian side.; AIDS fight drains health care cash; click Blessings, gregory ![]() |
| Ikerliker | Posted: 2008/6/27 19:15 Updated: 2008/6/27 19:17 |
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I think the fact that he is the "former" Religion Writer speaks volumes. I agree daveball, he is off his meds big time.
Maybe we should take up a collection here at VOL so he can get the medication he needs before he hurts himself. Poor thing. Lord have mercy! Just say NO to WO! |
| Leonard | Posted: 2008/6/27 22:13 Updated: 2008/6/27 22:13 |
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Marvel not if the world hates you.....
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| ddfen | Posted: 2008/6/30 13:06 Updated: 2008/6/30 13:06 |
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I have heard several conservative activists say that if it were not for the homosexual issue the Anglo-Catholics and the Evangelicals would never have made it to the same table and work in unity. Bates is a latecomer in saying this. There is truth in it. I has become the litmus test. I agree with jfmckenna. We need to look at what is being communicated and how.
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