JERUSALEM: GAFCON Leaders Take Tentative Steps Forward to a New Future
By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
6/24/2008
Leaders at the Global Anglican Future Conference (GAFCON) are spending their days in private closed sessions, trying to discern the principles by which they can navigate into the future.
Bishop Bill Atwood, a US-based Kenyan bishop, told a press conference that agreed upon principles will lead to a new awareness of voluntary association which will, in turn, lead to a shared purpose and vision, and ultimately to shared structural mechanisms.
He stopped short of declaring a new Anglican entity or that GAFCON would be a rival or alternative Anglican Communion. "Structural life proceeds out of the realities of relationships. There is no constitution in the wings that people can line up...it has to grow out of relationships," he said.
"Our authority is to the Holy Scriptures and the historic way in which the church has received and interpreted scripture."
Asked when there would be a "concrete structure", Atwood said there was no timeline.
"The commitments we have to each other are to a high level of commitment. We need to discern who is collaborating with us, and who is not. A 'high level of commitment' means to have an expressed commitment among provinces and how they pursue mission and honor each other. If someone wants to introduce change, that would be unacceptable, he said.
Questioned on the Anglican Covenant being drawn up by the Anglican Communion that is still being talked about, Atwood said we must discern the principles by which we navigate. "We will not accept the lowest common denominator which everyone can agree upon to sign off on."
"We must navigate by what these things are that gather us together. We do not want to engage with those who can trip us and hurt ourselves."
Atwood said he was concerned about the prosperity gospel being pushed in Africa and said it showed a superficiality of what it means to be a disciple of Jesus Christ.
Asked if GAFCON was the loyal orthodox opposition in the Anglican Communion, Atwood said that GAFCON really was the Anglican majority and not a tiny remnant trying to recover the castle. "It is many faithful people and the reality is that the vast majority Anglicans around the world would agree with that. If they disagreed they would be the loyal opposition.
"When we live out of what is real power, we must speak the truth in love." Atwood said the starkness of disagreement is not narrow. "In the world of ideas, you can find vigorous examples of many Anglican leaders who disagree with various lines in the creeds. There is not one single issue. It is about Anglican identity. There are many core issues."
The Rev. Dr. Cesar Guzman, an Anglican theologian from Chile, said that new emerging theological institutions must have the gospel at the center and be prepared to spread the gospel.
"We do not want theological institutions that are self-serving. We want theological institutions to go out and spread the gospel. Many First World theological institutions have gone out the window. At its heart, theological education is the gospel, the uniqueness of Jesus Christ and the right order of relationships.
"We must ask what is a truly Christian way for Anglicans and we want theology to explain that it must be truly Christian. It will take the shape of Anglicanism and then it must be according to local culture. But it must be gospel driven with Jesus Christ and Holy Scripture at the center."
The Rev. David Short, rector of the largest Anglican Church in Canada, said the church has moved away from the message of the gospel and as a result its numbers have dramatically decreased and ordinands to the ministry have also decreased. "The Church has lost 18,000 congregants and seen a 28% decrease in ministers. The Anglican Church desperately needs ministers formed by the gospel who can be used by God to bring godly, biblical reformation and renewal to churches. Those churches that are growing in Canada are those which preach the gospel and those that receive gospel innovations are closing and dying."
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| DomWalk | Posted: 2008/6/24 15:16 Updated: 2008/6/24 15:19 |
Home away from home ![]() ![]() Joined: 2007/6/9 From: Left Coast, USA Posts: 619 |
Psalm 122, Laetatus sum, especially relevant this week (1662 BCP Psalter):
I WAS glad when they said unto me : We will go into the house of the Lord. Our feet shall stand in thy gates : O Jerusalem. Jerusalem is built as a city : that is at unity in itself. For thither the tribes go up, even the tribes of the Lord : to testify unto Israel, to give thanks unto the Name of the Lord. For there is the seat of judgement : even the seat of the house of David. O pray for the peace of Jerusalem : they shall prosper that love thee. Peace be within thy walls : and plenteousness within thy palaces. For my brethren and companions' sakes : I will wish thee prosperity. Yea, because of the house of the Lord our God : I will seek to do thee good. Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost. As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen! --- BTW, David, *great* photo of the bishops on the Mount of Olives! + + + |
| patulous | Posted: 2008/6/24 21:02 Updated: 2008/6/24 21:03 |
Home away from home ![]() ![]() Joined: 2007/5/18 From: Posts: 1746 |
Quote: "The Rev. Dr. Cesar Guzman, an Anglican theologian from Chile, said that new emerging theological institutions must have the gospel at the center and be prepared to spread the gospel."
After GAFCON we all may different things to do for our churches.....let us be prepared. |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/6/24 21:04 Updated: 2008/6/24 21:06 |
Home away from home ![]() ![]() Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6684 |
Like so many millions, I'd prefer a full schism, but since that's probably not going to happen, I hope that the primates will insist on a complete overhaul of the Anglican Communion. This means that the proposed Anglican Covenant would probably be adopted, but as it is presently structured, there is a problem with the process: It would take MUCH TOO LONG to put into effect!
I think that some way must be found to adopt it within at least a three-year period, because if we wait too long, interest in it will wane; giving TEC time to work at unravelling it before it takes effect, as they surely will unless it works to their advantage. Of course, I want no connection with TEC or their friends, and therefore, if they weren't a part of a restructured Communion, no one would miss them. I'd be only too happy to hold the door open for them as they leave! Cennydd |
| FrankV | Posted: 2008/6/25 0:42 Updated: 2008/6/25 0:42 |
Home away from home ![]() ![]() Joined: 2007/1/5 From: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 291 |
Cennydd:
It is more aptly (and crudely) stated, "Don't let the door hit you in the a-- as you leave." |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2008/6/25 3:40 Updated: 2008/6/25 4:15 |
Home away from home ![]() ![]() Joined: 2005/10/30 From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin Posts: 6684 |
Well put, Frank!
When I mentioned the proposed Covenant and its time frame for acceptance, I meant to say that since the length of time it would supposedly take for its acceptance is ten to twelve years, as has been suggested by the Covenant Design Group, that length of time is far too long! I see no reason why it needs to take so long to accept something of such potential importance to the Anglican Communion. I will put it this way: There is no sense in beating around the bush on the issue; either a province accepts the proposed Anglican Covenant or it doesn't! There is no sound reason why it should take ten to twelve years to arrive at a consensus! With modern communications as they are, it can be done in no more than a year, although enough time for discussion among the member provinces should be allowed; therefore the three years that I mentioned in my earlier post. There is no question that our Communion is in serious and drastic need of reform, and those provinces who actively resist that reform need to be told in no uncertain terms that, if they want to remain a part of our Communion, they must agree to the rules....and play by those rules! Otherwise, I'm afraid it will be goodbye, Anglican Communion! Cennydd |
| cr3wit | Posted: 2008/6/25 14:31 Updated: 2008/6/25 14:31 |
Just popping in ![]() ![]() Joined: 2007/2/1 From: Palmdale, CA Posts: 7 |
cennydd, the so-called Covenant has already been so gutted and watered down that it has no meaning. In another 10-12 years, it will be forgotten, which I'm sure is the idea. So we need to put no faith in the Covenant, or anything else the ABC has control of, for he is in league with TEC and the other revisionists.
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| Leonard | Posted: 2008/6/25 17:44 Updated: 2008/6/25 17:44 |
Just can't stay away ![]() ![]() Joined: 2004/11/2 From: Denver Posts: 141 |
Kinda' sounds llike when push comes to shove, these guys' cubes shrivel like salted slugs.....
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