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News : LONDON: Rowan Williams celebrates 'secret' gay communion service
Posted by David Virtue on 2007/11/29 15:20:00 (2702 reads)

LONDON: Rowan Williams celebrates 'secret' gay communion service

By Ruth Gledhill at her blog
http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2007/11/rowan-celebrate.html#more
November 29, 2007

Dr Rowan Williams, today presided at a 'secret' eucharist for the Clergy Consultation, as we reported that he would back in September. As we report, he gave a talk on 'present realities and future possibilities for lesbians and gay men in the church.' The venue, originally at St Peter's Eaton Square, was switched to another location in London to avoid media attention after new of the meeting emerged first on the Church Society website. In a speech on ecumenism in Rome last Friday, translated from German for me by Chris Gillibrand, Cardinal Walter Kasper spoke of the irrevocable divisions emerging from Anglicanism's present crisis.

The Cardinal said: 'While we in old matters of controversy we try to overcome old divisions, presently in ethical questions new divisions open up. This applies in particular to the protection of life, to marriage and the family, and issues of human sexuality. The joint public testimony is thereby weakened or impossible. The internal crisis for the churches is most evident in the Anglican community, but not only there.'

Nothing illustrates this better than this secret Eucharist. There can surely be no hope of joint public testimony between Anglicans and Catholics when the leader of the Anglicans cannot testify publicly himself.

Kasper also said: 'In Protestant theology, there is after the Luther Renaissance and the word of God theology Karl Barth from the early years of the theological dialogue, a return to the concerns of liberal theology. The result is often a softening of the Trinitarian and Christological foundation, previously held in common. What we describe as a common heritage, should be understood as the glaciers in the Alps which are here and there melting.'

The Clergy Consultation, which has between 250 and 450 members at any one time, was set up in 1976 by three Anglican priests, Malcolm Johnson, Peter Ellers and Douglas Rhymes. Changing Attitude has an interesting paper setting out a theology of sexual ethics around which members of the consultation work today. Many consultation members are married, one with six children, and are faithful to their partners. The organisation helps them cope with staying faithful to what they regard as a Christian lifestyle while dealing with a sexuality that sometimes does not emerge until later in life. Some members but by no means all are 'out' as openly gay but it is not difficult to understand why, in today's Church, most prefer to remain 'in'.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, views his taking part in the meeting and celebrating the eucharist as part of the 'listening process' outlined in Lambeth 1.10. A spokeswoman said: 'The Archbishop of Canterbury is committed to the listening process which was agreed at the Lambeth Conference as part of the discussions on human sexuality. That means listening to and engaging with gay and lesbian clergy in a pastorally sensitive setting. That is what he is doing.'

David Phillips, General Secretary of the Church Society, disagreed. He said: 'This is not something that should be happening. There is obviously serious doubt in our mind about some of the people present and their standing because of being in homosexual relationships. But we do not really have much regard for Rowan Williams anyway. We came to the conclusion a long time ago that he was not really fit to be Archbishop so today does not change anything.'

He wrote to Lambeth Palace after news of the meeting emerged. Chief of Staff Chris Smith replied: 'The Archbishop has asked me to say that unless he has clear evidence to the contrary, he would assume that members of the consultation, whether clergy, ordinands or religious, are in good standing with their diocesan bishops.' Mr Smith continued: 'The group, as described by its co-convenors in response to the Church Society website article and The Times newspaper, is in no sense a campaigning organisation, hence the confidentiality of its meetings. The purpose of the meeting was to listen to the concerns of individuals and to give the Archbishop the opportunity to engage with them from the position of the received mind of the Church.'

The letter went on: 'This engagement with different groups and individuals is constant and helps inform his deliberations on the course of action that he and his fellow primates will need to formulate for the resolution of the Anglican Communion's current divisions.'

The conservatives are also upset that the meeting went ahead. A statement signed jointly by Dr Richard Turnbull, chair of the Church of England Evangelical Council, Dr Philip Giddings, Convenor of Anglican Mainstream and Chris Sugden, Executive Secretary of Anglican Mainstream, reads: 'Every occasion for listening pastorally to people is to be welcomed. However, the Holy Communion is a fundamental symbol of fellowship and an expression of our unity in Christ. To offer this to those in gay partnered relationships, contrary to biblical teaching and contrary to the Bishops' teaching in Issues in Human Sexuality offers false hope rather than enabling transformation. The Bishop as upholder of the Apostolic Faith is held by all Anglicans to provide a focus of unity. Since the Archbishop has apparently proceeded with this service , this makes it more likely that he will become a focus of division. We endorse the importance of a proper listening process. We trust that the Archbishop will also listen to those who have moved through this stage to frame and fashion their own selves and their families according to the doctrine of Christ.'

As soon as I can get a comment from someone from the consultation, I'll post it here. I did manage to speak to Martin Reynolds, an openly gay clergyman who has successfully adopted a boy with his partner and was a former neighbour of Dr Williams when the Archbishop was in his previous job in Wales. Dr Reynolds was not at the meeting but said: 'The Clergy Consultation has been of great assistance to many many people over the years. Most gay clergy are married and have children. Most do not have partners. The consultation has given them great support and love in lives devoted to their families. It has performed a wide range of functions for a lot of people. It is hugely beneficial. The only clergyman I know who is in it is extremely grateful for the friendships he has built up through it, and so is his wife.'

I believe this all indicates that Rowan might at last be starting to reclaim his liberal roots. A source tells me that Gene Robinson is definitely coming to Lambeth, accompanied by his partner Mark. Gene will be doing a seminar. He and Mark will have been 'married' in a civil ceremony a few days earlier, on the symbolic 4 July. Lambeth will thus be their 'honeymoon'. Rowan wants to keep sexuality as much off the agenda as he can at Lambeth, to avoid a repetition of 1998. He is trying to make it as prayerful as possible. But I don't rate his chances much, given the joyful presence of the honeymooners. Lambeth is looking as if it will be wonderful for the media. Even in the unlikely event that we'll be invited to any seminars, we won't actually have to attend them. We will be free to make mischief on the highways and byways of Kent University, like we did last time. And the time before that.

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Posted: 2007/11/29 18:54  Updated: 2007/11/29 18:57
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 Re: LONDON: Rowan Williams celebrates 'secret' ...
Gay Communion Service, thou hath a name and it is *Oxymoron*.

ArchRowan's *Listening Process*??? Oh Puhleeezzz!!!
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Posted: 2007/11/29 19:10  Updated: 2007/11/29 19:10
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The listening that I hear is the marching of feet out the doors of TEC, and the silence within the TEC churches. Both are deafening but unheard by those who are deaf to Jesus and Biblical revelations.
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Now tell me the truth, isn't this whole thing getting out of hand??? Let's face it rowan williams is as gay as he can be.

Quote:
"I believe this all indicates that Rowan might at last be starting to reclaim his liberal roots. A source tells me that Gene Robinson is definitely coming to Lambeth, accompanied by his partner Mark. Gene will be doing a seminar. He and Mark will have been 'married' in a civil ceremony a few days earlier, on the symbolic 4 July. Lambeth will thus be their 'honeymoon'. Rowan wants to keep sexuality as much off the agenda as he can at Lambeth, to avoid a repetition of 1998. He is trying to make it as prayerful as possible. But I don't rate his chances much."

So why does anyone want to be associated with canterbury??? It is now a high cost brothel for pansexuals.

May the Lord have mercy on us all.
Strider
Posted: 2007/11/29 19:21  Updated: 2007/11/29 19:21
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Haven't I read somewhere about inappropriately taking the Eucharist and drinking damnation unto yourself. Wonder where that was.

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Posted: 2007/11/29 19:33  Updated: 2007/11/29 19:33
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The only thing that will surprise me about this is that some will be surprised by this.

Some seem actually to have been convinced that RW was really a closeted traditionalist preparing to ride in on his white horse or at least hoped he would. Or that he would see the error of his ways as the AC fell apart and acquiesce to the traditionalists. In the latter case this would not be evidence of a leader worthy of trust. This would just be evidence to me of someone who didn't care much where he stood.

RW still stands pretty much where he always has. His colors have been clear for a long time. Nevertheless he still speaks as if he can be a vehicle of unity.

The sad thing is some still will accept this bill of goods.

Cardinal Kasper is right. The common heritage of Trinitarianism and Christology has been virtually abandoned and with it goes worship and praxis. Without that theological foundation there can be no unity between denominations and, as we are seeing, not even within one.

God bless the realignment,

Neal
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This is all much more perverse than first impressions give. Holy Communion recalls our Lord's Last Supper with His apostles. Given revisionist logic, is it possible, thinkable that the Arch Revisionist sees himself as Jesus to unrepentant homosexuals, "marginalized" by an unloving society but the true flock of God? Spong once made a similar claim to be the bishop for GLBT. Griswold also, as I recall reading, called homosexuals the "stronger brethren" a la the Apostle Paul's reference to those who should not eat meat if it offended the "weaker brethren"--i.e. those who do not bless homosexuality. What a distortion and perversion of Holy Scripture!

For those of us not on the "inside" of the homosexual subculture of the Anglican-Episcopalian church, this may all seem quite disordered, but such distortions of logic--as St. Paul reminds us in Romans 1--follow from an apriori rejection of God's revealed Will.

Is the next step martyrdom? Homosexual sainthood? Indeed, for some it is better to rule in hell than serve in Heaven.
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Ezekiel 8 and 9...all of it.
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--Rowan has lost what little mind he had left. He speaks with forked tongue and not to be believed or trusted. That would be by EITHER side.
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To thine own self be true, even if it means being false to Him, eh Rowan?

TEC is finished, self-imolating even as you read this, and now England seeks to throw itself on the pyre with TEC.

Lord have mercy.
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"Most gay clergy are married and have children. Most do not have partners."

Pardon? Assuming the man is correctly quoted, would someone please elucidate that? Which is it?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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"GAY" Does that stand for "Got Aids Yet?"

The appropriate word to describe homosexuals, aside from that word itself, is "sodomites."
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The speed with which not only ECUSA but also the larger Anglican world is falling apsrt is overwhelming. I sincerely believe that this is the work of Satan. One wonders why one should want to remain associated with Canterbury at all. Isn't it time, perhaps, for orthodox Anglicans to split from Canterbury and ally with each other in a church that stands firm in the faith and truly follows Christ? Perhaps the new Canterbury could be in Africa or South America or Asia.
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Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ Says the LORD of hosts (Zechariah 4:6)

The speed of the shift amazes me, too, Marinemama. How intriguing it is that such a seismic shift recentering Christian fidelity is taking place in our times and how it is unfolding.

"The Holy Spirit blows where He wills," and not even the most faithful can presume fully to understand God's purposes. From a purely human perspective, however, the sheer waste of a once great tradition, sanctified by the blood of martyrs and prayers of many faithful souls, resplendent with magnificent churches, hymnody, and pious wisdom is tragic. Yet we must be reminded of how God desires obedience rather than sacrifice. Faithless priests and false shepherds incur His special wrath.

What a stunning time in which to live. May God give His stunned, yet faithful, people the insight to see, learn, and obey the moving of His blessed Holy Spirit in these latter days.
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On Nov. 29th, DnNeal wrote:
"God bless the realignment."

The problem for me is that the "realignment" is designed to keep that new structure in communion with the See of Canterbury and, thus, with Rowan Williams. I have trouble seeing this as a desirable solution if, indeed, it is a solution at all.
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quissom

I think there is only one answer as to why the decay is spreading so quickly. I believe God has withdrawn His Grace from the AC...at least ecusa, Canada, and the ABC. This is allowing satan to rush into the vacuum.

As I've said before, a favorite quote and with regards to the pitiable responses of ABC to the situation: "The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote."

Strider
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I believe there is no doubt that an alternative "Lambeth" will be called sometime soon after the Anglican Lambeth. What outcomes are determined at that alternate "Lambeth" will depend greatly on the progress of the Southern Cone and of Common Cause parteners to come together in force and Spirit. The Global South has the people and North America has the money. Together we will move ahead with a new international worlwide Catholic ,Evangelical reforming Catholic Church with its See sitting in the African Continent. This "new" Church will immediately open dialogue with the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodoxys and within 10 yrs, share Communion....God be Praised that we all should be ONE... Let the Unitarian secularists and modern humanists proceed on their merry way to Hell...a road paved with the Mellinium Goals.... Hmmm. What will become the name of our 'New' Church ? Doc
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I don't suppose it's possible to impeach an Archbishop (and a Presiding Bishop) but if it were, there have never in history been two more deserving candidates.
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The slide is fast, very fast in that i can hardly believe to have seen it in my lifetime...
Women's ordination then GLBT ordinations
BUT it will get worse and sooner than we think ;

The argument for the Blessing of Same-sex Couples goes something like this: I experience same-sex attraction and should be allowed to pursue those attractions. Indeed, since I experience these attractions as 'good', they must be from God and therefore the Church should Bless any resulting relationship(s).

If we accept that all experienced attractions should be acted upon and are from God, then a wide range of previously taboo activities will need to be blessed by the Church. Adultery comes immediately to mind, as does polygamy and indeed, as below, pedophilia.


Click here to read the full article on the next big thing


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daveball...(and I know your comments are made, tongue in cheek) I know where you're coming from but the Church is NOT a democracy. Thinking that it is, is a natural outgrowth of the American "Way"... ( How we do Church in this country)...and this has, in large part, led to TEC's (and soon other denominations) downfall... This needs to be carefully discussed in the emerging and reforming Church....Hierarchy and doctrine...How Bishops are 'elected' and how are they removed..as well as how Priests are 'called' and how they are removed and under what circumstances.... Your thoughts ?? doc
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Does this mean they celebrated communion "in the closet?"
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doc4sale

I've seldom heard it said more clearly. Yes, democracy does not extend to the church catholic. Coming together to vote on what God is, what God meant, and, heaven forbid, what God should have meant..as a foundation for church polity is the root of the problem.

Certainly, the Scripture speaks to how to receive and interpret and validate the prophetic. Popular vote at General Convention falls a wee bit short.

Thanks for making the point again.

Strider
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I'd like to make a few comments that are informed partly by my Presbyterian perspective:

1. The worship of God, including the proclaiming of the Word and the celebration of the Sacraments should never be closed or private, except in the most compelling circumstances (such as the imminent death of someone desiring baptism or communion);

2. Certainly, there should be no private service held for a group that apparently affirms homosexuality as something to be tolerated or even endorsed. This special service seems to support the aims of the group ... which is a violation of the Word of God. A leading church figure should not engage in such behavior;

3. If, however, the Archbishop really believes homosexuality is OK, he should not hide this service from the public. Doing something in private rather than in public indicates a lack of confidence in one's own convictions. It looks sneaky, as if he is trying to have it both ways.

4. Mainline Protestantism in general has suffered from the tendency to try and have things both ways.

My two cents.

Rev. John Erthein
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Well, here's my thing. If committing sin were a bar to participating in the Eucharist, none of us should be there. If these partners would confess their sin and earnestly seek healing, I wouldn't have a problem with this, other than the whole 'secret' thing.

Of course, how often do you see that? You usually get resentment (at best) at the mere suggestion that such a relationship is sinful or that healing should be sought.
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Ah, Doc4sale, you caught me. I confess, yes my tongue was firmly in my cheek and you have captured exactly the point that was on my mind - how, in the "new order", do we assure that similar circumstances do not occur again? How, and within what context, do we define and protect the doctrine? What are the mechanisms to deal with departure, intentional or innocent, from that doctrine? Who, exactly, controls or oversees what? What authority is vested, what is implied, what is denied? How much latitude exists in what areas? It goes on but you, I am sure, understand the point. To date, the vast majority of the discussion has dealt with the "attrocities" of TEc and the action of seperation. Little time has been devoted to what follows. We need to begin active dialog on this topic.
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Yes, Gregory...quite right. The next big thing is indeed pedophilia and its acceptance. I find it quite ironic and strangely funny that the Homosex mafia is distancing themselves from a similar group of perverts who use the same rhetoric and reasoning that they have used for the past 40 years. The homosex genie is out of the bottle. And even the gays are not happy about it. The slippery slope slips all.

Unfortunately we all will slide into destruction as the ancient Israelites did when Babylon came to call at the behest of an angry God.
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I agree, Athanasian.

DavidJacks, and some other determined 'haters' need to remember what God requires of them, once they purport to be His children.

We must all watch our propensity to sin, including our hypocrisy - in the midst of our own pain at what goes on around us.
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Quote:
"Most gay clergy are married and have children. Most do not have partners."


My dear mombear,

Readers that have been here for some length of time, and those who have posted, are aware of my life and witness as one who has struggled with same-sex attraction and who has walked away. I could never 'marry' my inner drives with an already existing Biblical and orthodox faith in Christ who is God.

Those who surrender themselves to homosexual fantasy and acting-out behaviours, set in motion complex factors that contribute to the scripturally-defined 'delusional' mind, that seeks to justify (rationalize) the same-sex behaviours. Some of these people were once mothers and fathers; all with children of their own.

In our modern world of pop-psychological principles of "I'm OK You're OK", and combined with the tossing out of sound biblical truths and well-reasoned traditions that date back 2000 years, we begin to see how the 'spirit of the age' contributes to this very painful morass.

In the end, the nature you 'feed' is the nature that 'grows'. In a climate of non-repentance and no need for a Saviour in Christ, many are left and indeed instructed, "to be the very best gay person that God made you to be!"

The witness of those who have fought and lived differently, can be seen in these links:


www.zacchaeus.ca . . . . . . . . . Anglican
www.redeemedlives.org . . . . . Episcopal
www.pfox.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . families/friends
www.jonahweb.org. . . . . . . . . Jewish
www.peoplecanchange.com . . gen. info.
www.pathinfo.org . . . . . . . . . . gen. info.
www.narth.com . . . . . . . . . . . . science/research/law
www.comingoutstraight.org . . gen. info.
www.oneby1.org . . . . . . . . . . . Presbyterian (excellent links page)
www.couragerc.net . . . . . . . . . RC
www.exodusglobalalliance.org . parachurch counsel
www.newdirection.ca . . . . . . . . parachurch counsel
www.regenbooks.com . . . . . . . . resource link
www.exodusbooks.org . . . . . . . .resource link
http://tinyurl.com/7f2na . . . . . . . medical issues & gay sex
www.becomingreal.org . . . . . . . Christian youth
www.freetobeme.com . . . . . . . . faith neutral youth site
www.stonewallrevisited.com . . .includes over 80 testimonies
www.dawnstefanowicz.com . *NEW* .effects of same-sex parenting



I pray this will be helpful to you, even though my treatment of this issue has been very brief.
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sistersmum wrote:


Quote:
The problem for me is that the "realignment" is designed to keep that new structure in communion with the See of Canterbury and, thus, with Rowan Williams. I have trouble seeing this as a desirable solution if, indeed, it is a solution at all.


Exactly.

I would love to see a traditionalist Bishop at Canterbury but that is not likely to happen. In this case, it is true, the AC must go on without it.

The light is out at Canterbury.

Neal
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