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News : PHILADELPHIA: FATHER McGREEVEY?
Posted by David Virtue on 2007/5/3 10:40:00 (3792 reads)

FATHER McGREEVEY?
Ex-N.J. guv converting, going to seminary

By GLORIA CAMPISI
Philadelphia Daily News
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20070503_FATHER_McGREEVEY_.html
May 3, 2007

A CHURCH IN turmoil faces a new controversy with word that James McGreevey, who made headlines as the nation's first openly gay governor, may become an Episcopal priest.

Sharp divisions already have arisen within the Episcopal Church amid its worldwide parent body, the Anglican Communion, after its first openly gay bishop, V. Gene Robinson, was elected four years ago to preside in New Hampshire.

McGreevey, 49, who resigned as governor of New Jersey in 2004, after announcing he was a "gay American," couldn't be reached yesterday to respond to news reports that he had converted to the Episcopal religion and will begin seminary study in the fall.

A message left on the phone listed to his partner, Mark O'Donnell, wasn't returned last night.

McGreevey now is embroiled in a bitter divorce from his estranged wife, Dina Matos McGreevey, and a custody struggle over their 5-year-old daughter.

There was plenty of reaction elsewhere to news reports that McGreevey, raised as a Roman Catholic and once an altar boy, has joined St. Bartholomew's Episcopal Church in Manhattan and has been accepted to study at the General Theological Seminary in New York, the oldest in the Episcopal Church.

"Oh, my gosh!" said a surprised Barbara Alton, assistant to Charles Bennison, bishop of the Episcopal diocese of Pennsylvania, when told the McGreevey news.

But she said she didn't think it would have any effect on the troubles already roiling the church.

Elsewhere, an Episcopal pastor who believes in "biblical orthodoxy" responded to the McGreevey story by commenting: "The Episcopal Church, I don't think, can get any crazier than it is."

"It's sad to me that the Episcopal Church increasingly has become a refuge for former members of the Roman Catholic Church who cannot abide by [Catholic] church teachings," said David L. Moyer, rector of the Episcopal Church of the Good Shepherd in Rosemont and bishop for the armed forces.

"They don't come to the church for healing but for the acceptance of their lifestyle and values," Moyer said.

"This is not a judgment against the man [McGreevey]," Moyer said. "God loves us all," but "some things are right and some are wrong."

Like Alton, Moyer didn't think think McGreevey's becoming a priest would have any impact on the troubles simmering within the Episcopal Church, under pressure from the Anglican Communion, which includes the American church, to step back from its support of gays.

"I don't think that this is something that would cause a problem," Alton said. "It would be so long before McGreevey even became a priest."

Leonard Swidler, a Temple University religion professor, religious historian and Roman Catholic, agreed that McGreevey's entry into the Episcopal priesthood would be simply a blip on the radar screen.

"I think it will be just a publicity story for a short while and then just fade away," Swidler said. "From what I can see, the Episcopal Church has all kinds of difficulties in this country, anyhow."

Leading to pressures on the Anglican Communion, Swidler and Alton both noted, was the fact that the Episcopal Church is growing rapidly in Africa, where a conservative culture refuses to accept the existence of homosexuality.

Swidler noted that a group of Episcopal priests had converted to the Roman Catholic faith when their church first ordained women priests.

McGreevey, an Irish Catholic who attended Catholic schools, continued to practice the religion as New Jersey's governor but veered from church teachings in several areas, including his support of abortion rights.

McGreevey was officially received into the Episcopal faith on Sunday at St. Bartholomew, the Rev. Kevin Bean, the church's vicar, told the Newark Star-Ledger in a report posted yesterday on its Web site.

Bean said McGreevey was in the church's "discernment" phase that usually precedes seminary. "This process that he's in right now is not going to be some snap of the finger, overnight process," Bean told the paper.

"And so at the parish level and at the diocesan level, everyone knows that this is a process that . . . intentionally is deliberate. You don't enter into it unadvisedly."

McGreevey has been accepted to the master-of-divinity program at the New York Episcopal seminary and will be starting in the fall, school spokesman Bruce Parker yesterday told the Associated Press.

"Where Mr. McGreevey goes with this is up to him."

Parker said he didn't know if McGreevey wanted to be a priest. "We have a lot of people studying here who are not interested in ordination at all."

Religion has become an issue in McGreevey's divorce proceedings. Matos McGreevey has demanded that their daughter not be allowed to receive communion in the Episcopal Church because she is being raised a Roman Catholic.

The Associated Press contributed to this report

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Fisherman
Posted: 2007/5/3 14:52  Updated: 2007/5/3 14:54
Home away from home
Joined: 2006/8/25
From: Dallas - Province of the Southern Cone, DoFW
Posts: 675
 Re: PHILADELPHIA: FATHER McGREEVEY?
Spin: 'McGreevey, 49, who resigned as governor of New Jersey in 2004, after announcing he was a "gay American,"'

Truth: McGreevey resigned after it was made public that he engaged in an adulterous homosexual affair with a male aide while governor of the state. He did not resign because he is a "gay American".
otispage2
Posted: 2007/5/3 17:01  Updated: 2007/5/4 15:53
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 Re: PHILADELPHIA: FATHER McGREEVEY?
James McGreevey is a politician, an ex altar boy of the Catholic faith. He apparently understands that TEC is a homosexual club, an organization that pays no attention to the doctrine of personal sin as applied in the Catholic Church.

TEC, on the other hand, certainly entertains the "delight" of erotic concepts endorsed by the apostate theology and witness of New Jersians Jack Spong and the pied piper of sodomy, Louie Crew.

McGreevey will be "just one of the boys" from New Jersey who joins the parade of gays, lesbians and bisexuals from that State.

Besides all this , there is no suggested or stated code of sexual ethics in "The Episcopal Church".

What more of a fertile garden than TEC for a homosexual politician whose track-record and ambition for ascendancy is proven?

Obviously, someday, he could surpass the accomplishment of the gay bishop of NH; he may become Primate of TEC.
cjanning
Posted: 2007/5/3 19:13  Updated: 2007/5/3 19:13
Home away from home
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From: Deep East Texas
Posts: 279
 Re: PHILADELPHIA: FATHER McGREEVEY?
Water seeks its own level...
fyffee
Posted: 2007/5/4 2:05  Updated: 2007/5/4 2:06
Just can't stay away
Joined: 2005/5/16
From: Carnarvon, Western Australia
Posts: 112
 Re: PHILADELPHIA: FATHER McGREEVEY?
".... to respond to news reports that he had
converted to the Episcopal religion ..."

Interesting way of describing his change of denomination from Roman Catholic to Episcopalian - a change of religion? Or does it show that even the secular press in USA is becoming aware that the word Episcopalian now denotes a new religion which is not Christian?
patience
Posted: 2007/5/4 12:24  Updated: 2007/5/4 12:38
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 Re: PHILADELPHIA: FATHER McGREEVEY?
Interesting how some folks multitude of sins are forgiven and its "welcome aboard" (probably fast-track for higher office, too), but an African Bishop with sincerely held orthodox views sincerely, fighting for the poor and the faithful in his home country, is persona non grata in TEC. what a strange state of affairs.
mwcob
Posted: 2007/5/4 15:09  Updated: 2007/5/4 15:09
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Joined: 2007/5/4
From: Fairfax, VA
Posts: 5
 Re: PHILADELPHIA: FATHER McGREEVEY?
I'm... just... beyond... words... Oh, wait - here they come.

1. He can be admitted to the discernment process the same week he becomes an Episcopalian? The rest of the world has to belong to a parish for 1-2 years, and demonstrate a vibrant ministry. As I was told "If you want to be a minister, then minister! Don't wait for a collar." But joins and they're ready to give him keys to the front door.

2. The rest of us have to open up our bank accounts and practically get a security clearance, but McGreevy gets a pass on all that?

3. If he'd had an affair with a woman, apologized, sought counselling and reformed his life - they wouldn't touch him. The double-standard is stunning.
Cennydd
Posted: 2007/5/4 21:52  Updated: 2007/5/4 21:52
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From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin
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 Re: PHILADELPHIA: FATHER McGREEVEY?
It's not just stunning; it's disgusting, immoral and absolutely UNFORGIVABLE!

Cennydd
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Posted: 2007/5/4 21:55  Updated: 2007/5/4 21:55
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From: Murfreesboro, TN St. Patrick's (CANA)
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 Re: PHILADELPHIA: FATHER McGREEVEY?
What took him so long?
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