CHURCH OF ENGLAND EVANGELICALS WILL BREAK WITH LIBERAL BISHOPS
Exclusive World Report
By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
12/12/2006
A broad coalition of Church of England Evangelicals will tell Dr. Rowan Williams today that they will break with bishops who do not proclaim a clear unequivocal gospel and they will train a new generation of ministers and clerics committed to the gospel of Jesus Christ.
The evangelicals say they will support only mission minded people through prayer, money and personnel, and they will have no hesitation in going around official structures even if official permission is withheld by the local liberal bishop.
The Evangelical leaders believe the local congregation is the basis for raising up a generation of new leaders and hint broadly that they will seek outside support for themselves.
They say that the Church of England as a confessing church, is not about human structures or administration, but it is built on Scripture, beliefs and behaviour.
The Evangelicals make it clear fellowship can only be built on the veracity of the gospel and they will break with any bishop who does not conform to the discipline and doctrine (authority of Scripture) of the Church creating networks outside of England for themselves apart from the Church of England as a safe place for gospel proclamation.
The Evangelicals say they will also no longer give financially to the Church of England to support structures antithetical to the gospel and will give only to self sustaining centers and seek financial partners to gospel-based ministries in England and abroad.
They believe that the Church of England has now become two churches - one which is focused around the gospel, the other that gives priority to human reason over Scripture and because of it they can no longer support the present structures in the Church of England.
The Evangelicals will also make it clear that relationships with their bishops who do not proclaim an unequivocal gospel is impaired and they will have no hesitation in finding alternative oversight.
But a group calling themselves InclusiveChurch responded to the Reform movement's "threat", and in a press release on Sunday said the conservative churches want to destroy the traditional breadth of the Church of England.
"Today's Sunday Telegraph reports that a small group of conservative evangelical parishes are intending to set up an alternative jurisdiction within the Church of England using retired bishops to provide their own, separate ministry. What they are objecting to is in fact the agreed position of the House of Bishops," they wrote.
The Rev. Dr. Giles Fraser, President of InclusiveChurch, said "These rebel churches want to destroy the traditional breadth of the Church of England and turn it into a puritan sect. They must not be allowed to succeed."
"Britain is aware of the dangers of religious extremism. Now, more than ever, the message of a broad and inclusive Christianity needs to be heard. The Civil Partnership legislation has clearly offered new opportunities for people in this country to express a profound and committed love for one another. InclusiveChurch welcomes that."
"These parishes are attacking their Bishops for upholding the agreed position on the Civil Partnership legislation. We urge the House of Bishops to resist this attempt further to divide the Church of England. The threats of financial penalties sound very like an attempt to bully the church into a particular position. Rather than engage with the world, these parishes seem to wish to separate themselves from it."
"These proposals represent part of a wider pattern which will, if allowed to continue, distort and ultimately destroy the Anglican Communion. Across the Communion, we see attempts to replace the breadth and openness of Anglican theology with a confessional, protestant theology and practice. The recent irregular ordinations in the Diocese of Southwark, the statements of the Primates of the Global South at Kigali in July, the moves by the diocese of San Joaquin and parishes in the Diocese of Virginia to remove themselves from the Episcopal Church, and the appointment by the Church of Nigeria of Martyn Minns as a Bishop in the United States are all part of this strategy."
"Alternative Episcopal Oversight, when it was created, set a dangerous precedent for Anglican Christianity. It implied that a "mix and match" church was possible, with people and parishes being able to choose their bishops according to their views on specific issues. The request for Alternative Primatial Oversight in America is partly a result of this precedent. This proposal to bring bishops out of retirement in order to promote a view of the church which appears increasingly single-issue and dominated by homosexuality is another."
"We repeat, as we have said before; the Anglican Communion is a gift. In all its complexity and untidiness it has a great deal to offer the world. For that reason we have welcomed the Archbishop of Canterbury's proposals for working out a Covenant between us," concluded Fraser.
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A COVENANT FOR THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND
At this time in the life of the Church of England and the Anglican Communion, faced with a faulty view of revelation, false teaching and indiscipline, we believe that it is necessary to set out where we as orthodox Anglicans stand, and to invite others to join us.
OUR IDENTITY
We are members of the Church of England, part of the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church, who share with others throughout the world a commitment to the biblical truths on which the Anglican Communion is based. This is what guarantees our fellowship with Anglicans historically and globally. We pledge ourselves to strengthen this fellowship.
The love and grace of God in the gospel saves and converts individuals to a relationship with God, introduces people to life in the Spirit, and draws members into the Body of Christ. It produces holiness of life, unity in the Spirit and life-giving and life-transforming mission. Therefore in dependence on God, we are committed to spreading the unchanging gospel of Jesus Christ, to making disciples who make disciples of Christ, and to reviving existing and planting new churches. We wait for heaven to belong to a pure and perfect church - indeed, we confess our own guilty part in the church's present failings. Nonetheless the gospel challenges the church to faithful obedience.
We are committed to faithful biblical orthodoxy as defined by the classic formularies of our tradition. Canon A5 states: "The doctrine of the Church of England is grounded in the Holy Scriptures, and in such teachings of the ancient Fathers and Councils of the Church as are agreeable to the said Scriptures. In particular such doctrine is to be found in the Thirty-nine Articles of Religion, the Book of Common Prayer, and the Ordinal". The Preface to the Declaration of Assent declares that the Church of England professes "the faith uniquely revealed in the Holy Scriptures and set forth in the catholic creeds." This is what the Church of England confesses and true unity belongs in this common confession. It is departure from this common faith that is responsible for causing schism.
Commitment to the gospel has the following implications for action at this time.
OUR ACTION
Mission
Jesus' Great Commission to "Go into all the world and make disciples" has renewed force for us in our post-Christian society. As is being increasingly recognised, the historic focus on the traditional patterns of parishes, clergy and ecclesiastical buildings is now inadequate by itself to meet this great challenge and must be transformed by one that is dynamically evangelistic, committed to using every available means to reach the unchurched. "Existing ecclesiastical legal boundaries should be seen as permeable". This means there cannot be any no-go areas for gospel growth and church planting. Best practice will always involve appropriate consultation, including with non-Anglicans. We will support mission-shaped expressions of church through prayer, finance and personnel, even when official permission is unreasonably withheld.
Appointments
The local congregation is the initial and key seed-bed for recognising, authorising, raising up and releasing new leaders. We affirm the need for the wider recognition and authorisation for leaders. We recognise the vital importance of biblically orthodox training both regionally and nationally. But many parishes have lost confidence in the institutional centre to discern and train suitable ministers, and fund and deploy them in sufficient numbers and appropriate contexts. Local churches must in future also play a major role in the selection, training, funding and appointment of ministers. This means that we can no longer be constrained by an over-centralised and increasingly ineffective control that is stifling the natural development of ministry. If the local Bishop unreasonably withholds authorisation, we will pay for, train and commission the ministers that are needed, and seek official Anglican recognition for them.
Fellowship
Fellowship is based on the faith "once delivered to the saints". Global Anglicans observe that the Church of England is increasingly polarizing into two churches: the one submitting to God's revelation, Gospel-focused, Christ-centred, cross-shaped and Spirit-empowered; the other holding a progressive view of revelation, giving priority to human reason over Scripture, shaped primarily by western secular culture, and focused on church structures. We reaffirm the Church of England as a confessing church, built supremely not on administrative or human structures but on biblical authority, belief and behaviour. This means that we can no longer associate with teaching that is contrary to the clear teaching of the Scriptures either doctrinally (for example, on the supremacy and uniqueness of Christ) or morally (for example, on issues of gender, sex and marriage), or church leadership which advocates such teaching. We will therefore encourage new informal networks of fellowship, augmenting where necessary the institutional geographical groupings, and will respect and support those who cannot in good conscience maintain Christian fellowship with neighbouring Anglicans who do not uphold the authority of Scripture.
Money
Money is an aspect of gospel partnership in the New Testament. It is entrusted to church leaders by church members who generously and sacrificially give to Christian ministry. Under charity law there is a responsibility that those who handle the church's money steward those resources with integrity. Funds are expected to be directed towards the churches and causes in line with the beliefs and expectations of those who give. To direct the church's giving elsewhere is a dereliction of duty for which leaders will be held accountable by God. This means that we can no longer support ministries or structures increasingly marked by the doctrinal and ethical heterodoxy outlined above. Our congregations will seek actively to become self-sustaining when and where we can, to donate a reasonable yet modest amount to support the administrative centre, to be part of mutually accountable financial partnerships, and to give generously to gospel ministries, at home and abroad, that share the same values.
Oversight
Christian leaders are servant leaders, servants of the gospel. As Anglicans, we affirm Episcopal oversight for the sake of God's mission. But it must be ordered for the church's well-being. This means having biblically orthodox oversight that will teach the apostolic faith, refute error and discipline the wayward. We can, therefore, no longer accept churches being denied such oversight. Ensuring that such biblically orthodox oversight is available for the health and well-being of the church is more important than arguments about jurisdiction. The immediate crisis is over the fundamentals of revealed truth. We are aware of those who justifiably consider that their communion with their bishops is impaired, and will support and help them to find alternative oversight.
We are committed, as authentic Anglicans, to praying, believing and working for a restored, reformed and renewed Church of England, holding its traditional convictions: confidence in the truth of God in his Word, in the sacrificial death of his Son for his world, and in the power of God's Spirit to fulfil his mission.
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| Anonymous | Posted: 2006/12/12 11:50 Updated: 2006/12/12 12:10 |
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Rather than engage with the world, these parishes seem to wish to separate themselves from it. Christians, Dr. Fraser, are called to be in the world but not of the world. "You have said it...but you have not understood it." History repeats itself. But this time, you would crucify the church instead of the Christ with your liberal theology. |
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| boggy | Posted: 2006/12/12 12:08 Updated: 2006/12/12 12:08 |
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The local congregation is the initial and key seed-bed for recognising, authorising, raising up and releasing new leaders.
Everything begins at this level. Here is where the money comes from. My bishop is a fence-rider, waiting to see where the wind blows. He doesn't get my money. |
| HowieG | Posted: 2006/12/12 12:33 Updated: 2006/12/12 12:37 |
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<The Rev. Dr. Giles Fraser, President of InclusiveChurch, said "These rebel churches want to destroy the traditional breadth of the Church of England and turn it into a puritan sect. They must not be allowed to succeed.">
Notice how the Reverend Fraser uses the typical liberal/revisionist reactionary technique to divert attention from the issue or discussion on hand? The choice of the word "puritan" is a feeble attempt to discredit those who see the InclusiveChurch as nothing more than a social-do-as-you-want-with-no-questions-asked bunch of revisionist. It's very doubtful if they have any concept of the "traditional breadth of the Church of England". As for not succeeding... The Holy Spirit will cleanst all that is defiled. The Word of God will not be mocked by those who wouldn't know Jesus if he or she ran into Him. H |
| seminarian | Posted: 2006/12/12 13:18 Updated: 2006/12/12 13:18 |
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Am I the only one who thinks that this is similar to the fallout that is occuring in the US - I wonder if Abp Akinola will give these evangelicals oversight if they ask. Are we seeing the shake up of not only the TEC but anglican communion as well? What will be left standing when the dust settles? Those who uphold Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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| AlMarsh | Posted: 2006/12/12 13:23 Updated: 2006/12/12 13:23 |
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I have seen statements like this many times in England. Will they actually do anything this time?
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| gregory | Posted: 2006/12/12 13:23 Updated: 2006/12/12 13:23 |
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seminarian, You are not alone. Good post!
humbly, gregory ![]() |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2006/12/12 13:31 Updated: 2006/12/12 13:31 |
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Well, it's about time! Fraser: Take a hike! The true Church of England has spoken!
Cennydd |
| nancyrowe | Posted: 2006/12/12 13:53 Updated: 2006/12/12 13:53 |
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Amen, Cennydd!
I scanned this article for a mention of Sandy Millar, former vicar of Holy Trinity Brompton, now a bishop in the Ugandan church. It appears Sandy is being quiet - and possibly waiting in the wings. The Church of England cannot afford to lose churches such as Holy Trinity Brompton - in the long run, they face the same situation as TEC. We will be hearing more from our British friends who truly belong to Christ! ![]() |
| dturk | Posted: 2006/12/12 13:55 Updated: 2006/12/12 13:55 |
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For decades, the Church of England, along with the Anglican Church of Canada and The Episcopal Church have tolerated all sorts of perverted assaults on the faith once delivered. This has finally resulted in a de-facto fracturing of the communion, so that it is a communion in name only.
Finally, the faithful have drawn a line in the sand and said, "No." I think that enough momentum has built to push it forward. It was a long time in coming. The liberal crowd are the ones who have abandoned tradition and orthodoxy. While they have invaded the seats of power, they are slowly rotting away. Their numbers are dwindling precipitously. They can't sustain themselves. If they don't agree to broker a deal, eventually, the faithful will leave on their own in frustration and disgust. |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2006/12/12 14:19 Updated: 2006/12/12 14:21 |
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Right, dturk! The ugly rot of liberal heresy has brought the Communion to the edge of schism, and it is for us to bring it back! I hope that His Grace the Archbishop will have the common sense to heed what the evangelicals are saying, and that he complies with their demands.
Otherwise...... Cennydd |
| ejsteele | Posted: 2006/12/12 14:49 Updated: 2006/12/12 14:49 |
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Just as there were those who broke with ECUSA back in the 70's over women's ordination and the 1979 Prayer Book, so too in England "continuers" broke away over women's ordination in 1994. I just hope that if this is the beginning of a revival in the UK, that the continuers and those still in the CofE can do a better job of working together than we have here in the U.S.
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| john123 | Posted: 2006/12/12 15:11 Updated: 2006/12/12 16:10 |
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dturk.
I agree with what you say to the point where you call for us to "broker a deal". Its this sitting down and brokering things with these revisionists that has got us into the mess we find ourselves in toay. You cannot broker with these people. It is either their way or no way. And when it comes to our faith, we do not broker. As with pregnancy, you either are or you are not. With our faith, you are either for Christ or you are not. Period. Take a look around at the consequences of brokering. Take a look at what it has done to the unity of the Anglican Communion, at what it has done to Canterbury and the many godly people in the old Episopal Church who thought they could turn these b....ds around. The destruction and devistation is all around us. I do not want them in the Orthodox tent until they repent. And there is not a snowballs chance in hell that they are going to repent. So no, we do not entertain the idea of brokering a deal. |
| leader1111 | Posted: 2006/12/12 15:14 Updated: 2006/12/12 15:14 |
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God's will be done!
Onward Christian Soldiers marching as to war with the cross of Jesus ... The Evangelicals and the Anglo Catholics are clearly saying if the ABC doesn't recognize the basic tenets of Anglicanism then they will do whatever is necessary, inside or outside Anglicanism to accomplish God's mission. These truly are exciting times. We are on a mission to change things. |
| john123 | Posted: 2006/12/12 15:38 Updated: 2006/12/12 15:38 |
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Amen Leader 1111. And we do not need Canterbury to accomplish our mission.
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| fastball | Posted: 2006/12/12 16:36 Updated: 2006/12/12 16:36 |
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Better late than never. Welcome to the fight, Canterbury. Glad to see you could finally make it. Please put on your armor and proceed to the front lines.
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| Anonymous | Posted: 2006/12/12 16:59 Updated: 2006/12/12 16:59 |
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"They say that the Church of England as a confessing church, is not about human structures or administration, but it is built on Scripture, beliefs and behaviour."
David, This statement in your article introduces a false dichotomy between "Scripture, beliefs and behaviour" and "human structures or administration" by changing what the coalition actually said: "We reaffirm the Church of England as a confessing church, built supremely not on administrative or human structures but on biblical authority, belief and behaviour." The difference between the two may at first glance seem insignificant, but such is not the case. Your wording of "not about" creates a dichotomy--an either/or--denying the role within the Church of "human structures or administration," which gives the impression of an anarchistic polity. But that isn't what the coalition said or intended: the coalition's wording of "built supremely not on" acknowledges the role of "human structures or administration" while pointing out that the focus of the Church is "biblical authority, belief and behaviour"--a both/and that isn't anarchistic. You would have done well to have simply used the coalition's careful wording instead of altering it. Blessings, wopriest+ |
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| frcochran | Posted: 2006/12/12 18:02 Updated: 2006/12/12 18:02 |
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jmoyers,
Who says these Evangelicals are Calvinist, the head of "Inclusive Church" who derisively tries to smear them with the "P" word? We need to finally learn that when dealing with Inclusive Church, Via Media, and Anal Sex Is Us, we need to turn the volume completely off. They do not, never have, and never will preach, live, and love the Gospel of Christ. Their gospel is the one that holds worldly mores as their standard. Therefore, they can paint their struggles as them, the Cavaliers, against the Puritan Roundheads all day long and none should listen. They are liars. They have always been liars. "We are going to study the issue of homosexuality [though our minds are made up]." Please!!!!!!!! In their gospel this is OK because the means justifies the ends when your morals are based upon secularism. Puritans? Says who? Oh, it is those guys from Inclusive Church making the charge. What did they say again? I wasn't listening. John+ |
| john123 | Posted: 2006/12/12 18:26 Updated: 2006/12/12 18:30 |
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frcochran.
Well said, indeed. And you cannot sit with or broker with these kinds of people. God bless |
| kepha | Posted: 2006/12/12 22:43 Updated: 2006/12/12 22:43 |
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Why are the names "Puritan" and "Calvinist" insults? The English Evangelicals mentioned above ought to wear those names as badges of honor--if they are indeed worthy of them. The CofE owed a lot to the Swiss Reformation--including Jean Calvin, who built on what Zwingli, Butzer, and Bullinger did before him. Further, the Puritan understanding of God, man, authority, church, and state underlies the system of limited government the Anglophone nations now enjoy--as Anglican bishop Marcus Loane once noted (he was an Aussie).
The CofE Evangelicals mentioned in this article are making the same discovery which the 17th century Puritans (aka biblically oriented British Christians) made when the Stuart monarchs and their pets such as William Laud started seeing authority as something that gave them a proprietary rather than ministerial right over the people of the Two Kingdoms. If these CofE Evangelicals indeed stand in the line of true English Protestantism, we will not only have new life in England; but, perhaps, a continuation of the peacemaking begun by the 18th century Evangelicals (the C of E minister Whitefield was buried in a New England Congregationalist church), and a true, Gospel-based ecumenicism. May God save England! (I speak as an American) |
| dturk | Posted: 2006/12/12 22:44 Updated: 2006/12/12 22:44 |
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"You cannot broker with these people. It is either their way or no way. And when it comes to our faith, we do not broker. As with pregnancy, you either are or you are not. With our faith, you are either for Christ or you are not. Period."
You are right. I am being optimistic. |
| MicroCar | Posted: 2006/12/12 22:47 Updated: 2006/12/12 22:49 |
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+"The Evangelicals make it clear fellowship can only be built on the veracity of the gospel and they will break with any bishop who does not conform to the discipline and doctrine (authority of Scripture) of the Church creating networks outside of England for themselves apart from the Church of England as a safe place for gospel proclamation."
Rubbish! Surely you must be kiding. If the CoE evangelicals are as turgid and inert as those of the TEC and the ACC are at breaking with liberal Bishops and Primates, then it is merely another toothless orthodox threat. So what else is new in Blighty? Micro of Birmingham+ |
| Theophilos | Posted: 2006/12/13 21:50 Updated: 2006/12/13 21:50 |
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I bet that they will not. They love the CofE. Remember that for them the CofE is the best
place to fish.
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| gregory | Posted: 2006/12/14 16:47 Updated: 2006/12/14 16:48 |
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"...the difference between the two worldviews.
1. How did human beings come to be on this planet? Religious: God created us in His image and placed us here. Secular: By a lengthy, random process of unaided materialistic evolution, primitive protoplasm became Bach and Beethoven. 2. Where is the human race headed? Religious: To an ultimate day of God’s choosing when a grand Messianic redemption will take place resulting in the whole world recognizing God and His truth. Secular: To an ultimate day of destruction and oblivion that will wipe us out through overcrowding, poverty, global warming, acid rain, nuclear explosion, off-course meteorites or any combination of the above. 3: What are we supposed to be doing here? Religious: We are supposed to be developing our relationship with God and becoming closer to Him through studying and following His Torah and obeying His mitzvoth. In other words, we have a set of objective ethics to live by. Secular: There are no objective ethics, so everything is subjective and relative. “Anything goes” is good enough as far as our personal lives go! Our primary focus on the future is to head off the threats to humanity in the Secular answer to question #2. If they are too formidable for us to solve alone, we should urge our government to solve them. If they are too much for one government to solve, we should urge governments to cooperate through the United Nations in order to solve them. Monotheists, such as Jews and Christians, would be in basic agreement with the religious answers, albeit with variations in the details. Secularists eschew objective values and ethics, and look at the future as extremely tenuous and limited to only “this world.” The ultimate day of destruction and oblivion are rapidly approaching, and there is nothing after that! Thus both homosexual and heterosexual secularists, based on their secular worldview, can very easily fall into the trap of supporting same-sex marriage. To do so, they intentionally ignore the serious problems they are imposing on parents with a religious worldview -- parents trying to teach their children Judeo-Christian values. Secularists truly believe religious people are ignorant, intolerant, homophobic, racist, and generally dangerous; so they believe it is only “social justice” to destroy any public acceptance of the religious worldview, even by undemocratic means. The leaders of the secular movement are strident atheists who cannot tolerate religious people; a constant reminder of everything they reject. Instead of being religious fundamentalists, they became secular fundamentalists. Through propaganda and ridicule, these fundamentalists have also convinced a minority of Americans, who believe in God, to fear religion more than secularism, in complete disregard to the barbaric reality of the 20th century. After the fall of Nazism and Communism, the secular fundamentalists focused primarily on post-Christian Europe and American academia, turning both into hotbeds of anti-religious bigotry and virulent anti-Semitism. These self-proclaimed “progressives” espouse diversity, but are in fact very close-minded and hostile to all political, cultural, and especially religious opinions with which they disagree. Over a century ago, R' Samson Raphael Hirsch anticipated modern secular fundamentalism with prophetic precision. It is now no longer enough for the apostate to be able to live undisturbed according to his convictions, as he calls them; to him there is no well-being and no peace as long as his convictions have not become the only ones recognized as right and valid. He sees in the Law an intellectual slavery from which it is the Godly task of a second Moses to redeem his unfortunate brothers. In Torah-loyalty, he sees superstition, backwardness, and at the same time a calamity which is to blame for all the miseries of the past. He sees in “liberation” from the yoke of the Law a goal so high and so humanitarian that every means which seems capable of bringing about progress toward this great goal must be employed. He has reached the stage of waging fanatical campaigns of persecution against those loyal to the Law. Extremists on either side can be dangerous if initiation of force is not limited by a strong Constitutional defense of individual rights and religious freedom. The secular side, however, offers the greatest risk to society. It contains no internalized mechanism for an objective moral code of human cooperation and must rely solely on the collectivized, legalistic force of government for citizens to defend themselves. It also contains no effective, common moral foundation for raising children, especially in a vacuum without an existent moral culture passed down from previous generations of religious tradition The Ultimate Victims Who are the ultimate victims? On a micro level, our children are the victims, but on a macro level, our free society will be the victim. ... We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. ..."" seems appropiate to post this here; humbly, gregory |
| unitarian | Posted: 2006/12/15 18:15 Updated: 2006/12/15 18:15 |
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I've already posted a comment to the effect that this IS the breaking point. Now the Anglican communion no longer tearing at the edges. It is splitting straight across.
One thing occurred to me after I wrote the post, however. Many people in TEC and Church of England and elsewhere are simply keeping their heads down, not wanting to be drawn into the fray. I'm on the mailing lists of several Anglo-Catholic parishes whose rectors have adopted this approach. The reason they follow it is that they believe that one way or another the hierachy is going to remain intact. We will have TEC and some fragments. They fear making a gesture that will turn out to be futile. They don't yet grasp the real situation. But as it becomes clear that the hierarchy cannot control anything--doctrine, order, money, property, ethics--these often very godly people will look again. Let us suppose that Mrs. Schori starts a hundred lawsuits. That will not hold anything together. It will simply bankrupt TEC faster, financially, while making enemies of the people who take their faith most seriously. Do we imagine that she will somehow win converts too? Enough to fill the empty churches TEC will own if it succeeds in even a fraction of the lawsuits? Impossible. As the Titanic goes down, everyone will have to choose a lifeboat. We have reached the proverbial "tipping point" where the dribble becomes a torrent. So instead of continuing to focus on the vagaries of the current "leadership" then, we should consider, each of us, where we want to go and with whom and what community--because soon circumstances will oblige us to make that choice. The folks on Madison Avenue are doing a very good job of demolition and site clearance. But they cannot build a new community. No one will follow them. That task, with God's help, is up to us. Boston Unitarian |
























