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GC2006 : VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.Gays furious,Orthodox unhappy
Posted by David Virtue on 2006/6/21 23:00:00 (6865 reads)

VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution. Gays furious, orthodox unhappy

By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
6/21/2006

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

It was over, or so everyone thought, but late Tuesday evening Frank Griswold, frantic that the House of Deputies had offered nothing to the House of Bishops to vote on regarding the Windsor Report, called both houses together in an emergency session for Wednesday morning, and said in blunt terms that something had to be done or The Episcopal Church would have to face the consequences.

It was not a pluriform moment. In a cry of desperation Griswold said this: "This is the final day of General Convention. What I believe we actually yearn for has not been adequately reflected through the workings of our legislative processes...We must now act with generosity and imagination so that our actions are a clearer reflection of the willingness of the majority of us to relinquish something in order to serve a larger purpose."

Translation: If we don't send the Archbishop of Canterbury and the orthodox Global South bishops a statement that they can live with we are done for.

It was an anguished moment for the outgoing Presiding Bishop. He did not want to see the whole church come unglued in his watch, at the same time he didn't want to offend his biggest backer, an Affirming Catholic like unto himself, and he had to offer a shank bone, even one with no meat to the Global South. He took the risk of LesBiGay wrath from the House of Deputies and made the following plea: "Unless there is a clear perception on the part of our Anglican brothers and sisters that they have been taken seriously in their concerns, it will be impossible to have any genuine conversation," he said to the two policymaking bodies.

He was hanging by his fingernails. "There needs to be a clear sense that we are not ignoring the sensibilities for those who are genuinely unable to understand what we have done," Griswold said. "Humility is not an easy virtue but it is very much required in this season."

Humility but not sound teaching is all he could offer. In short, bite the bullet, but I will wink and nod if things carry on as usual. And carry on they will.

A group of orthodox bishops weighed in on the resolution giving it a thumbs down expressing disgust, calling it "inadequate." We reaffirm our conviction that the Windsor Report provides the way forward for the entire Anglican Communion, the ecumenical relationships of the Communion, and the common life of a faithful Episcopal Church. We have agreed to submit ourselves to the Windsor Report's requirements, both in what it teaches and in the discipline it enjoins. We have not changed in our commitment."

But Dr. Louie Crew was the most outraged. He saw 30 years of pansexual push about to go down the drain (he is well into his 70's has diabetes and might not be around for the next General Convention). This is his swan song.

Cried Crew, the founder of the homosexual lobby group Integrity; "This would be like trying to cut the tone from out under the Holy Spirit."

But Griswold won the day with a little help from the new Presiding Bishop Jefferts Schori who opined, "My sense is that the original resolution is the best we're going to do today."

And so it went. Here is what the resolution said:

"On the Election of Bishops"

"Resolved, the House of Deputies concurring, that the 75th General Convention receive and embrace The Windsor Report's invitation to engage in a process of healing and reconciliation; and be it further Resolved, that this Convention call upon Standing Committees and bishops with jurisdiction to exercise restraint by not consenting to the consecration of any candidate to the episcopate whose manner of life presents a challenge to the wider church and will lead to further strains on communion."

No repentance, not even regret, just a call to "exercise restraint" by not consecrating any more Gene Robinson's, though it should be added that Canon Barry L. Beisner the new Bishop of Northern California did sail through both houses of the 75th General Convention despite his two divorces and three marriages.

The Committee on the Consecration of Bishops recommended Beisner's consecration with five members of the 23-member committee dissenting in a minority report. The minority report cited Beisner's multiple divorces and marriages as "troubling impediments."

And so the 75th General Convention of the newly named The Episcopal Church (we shall write more about that later) came to an end, but not before Presiding Bishop-elect Katherine Jefferts Schori declared, while addressing a morning Eucharist at the 75th General Convention of the Episcopal Church, "Our mother Jesus gives birth to a new creation. And you and I are His children." The future looks grim indeed.

Wrote VOL correspondent Hans Zeiger, "With Jefferts Schori as the leader-to-be of the Episcopal Chuch, it seems that the church will move beyond gender-inclusive language to transgender-inclusive language."

I have posted the final stories from this convention in today's digest, but I and Dr. Peter Toon and Mrs. Auburn Traycik will reflect on what happened more deeply in the days to come.

The one story that will be ferreted out is the name change for the church and the implications for a rival communion that might be in the works, should The Episcopal Church be forced to walk apart. There is more here than meets the eye.

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I am personally grateful for a wonderful team of reporters and commentators who joined VOL for this significant occasion. I cannot praise them too highly. I stand in their shadow. I also want to thank my webmaster Mr. Robert Turner who worked obscene hours to keep the website up and running.

All blessings,

David W. Virtue DD
www.virtueonline.org

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frjude
Posted: 2006/6/22 3:11  Updated: 2006/6/22 3:12
Home away from home
Joined: 2005/1/9
From: Heartland
Posts: 277
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
"The one story that will be ferreted out is the name change for the church and the implications for a rival communion that might be in the works, should The Episcopal Church be forced to walk apart. There is more here than meets the eye."

Name change for what church? Will the apostates, or the faithful Network, be allowed to use the name 'Episcopal'? Frankly, I'd give them -the apostate, high-church unitarians- the Episcopal name, as they've ruined it in the public eye. Network churches should use 'Anglican', imho.
spbarrett
Posted: 2006/6/22 3:17  Updated: 2006/6/22 3:17
Just popping in
Joined: 2006/6/19
From: Hippie Valley, W. Mass.
Posts: 17
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
Griswold waited until the very last minutes of the eleventh hour to try and patch things up with a watered down resolution that pleased nobody.

Why bother? The ECUSA is a dead church praying.
Cennydd
Posted: 2006/6/22 3:44  Updated: 2006/6/22 3:44
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From: Los Banos, CA, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin
Posts: 6684
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
Frjude, the very idea of using the name "Episcopal" for a new province is not very appealing to me, and I suspect, a lot of others. I would MUCH rather use the name "Anglican," because after all, isn't that what we are? The name "Episcopal" is associated with "that gay Church," and that's not what I'd prefer. If I were the orthodox Anglican bishops, I'd let the people decide!

Cennydd
ICXCNIKA
Posted: 2006/6/22 4:07  Updated: 2006/6/22 4:07
Just can't stay away
Joined: 2006/6/18
From: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 82
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
David and others at the Convention...although it was extremely difficult to read the occurences of this convention at times, thank you so much for being a lighthouse in this storm, and for writing so much sound and informative news. I look forward to hearing the commentary on Virtueonline in the coming days. Keep up your greatly needed work.
ICXCNIKA
Posted: 2006/6/22 4:27  Updated: 2006/6/22 4:27
Just can't stay away
Joined: 2006/6/18
From: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 82
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
It seems as if Dr. Frankenstein (Griswold) has created his monster (ECUSA) from the corpses of ancient heresies, and it has run haywire...what a surprise.

Pondering the events of this past week, one would be hard pressed to find a (so-called) Church gathering that was so utterly filled with unmitigated arrogance and contempt.

The Anglican Church has NEVER said that it was the true Church, yet the ECUSAns have made their conventions equal to Ecumenical Councils that evoke the guidance of the Holy Spirit...for who? 800,000 people? Is this lunacy or egotism run wild?

If the Anglican Church lays claim to its Catholic heritage (which it has a right to), then it CANNOT disregard the the BILLION...BILLION...other Catholic Christians and their witness to the traditions of Christ and the Fathers. Every liberal bishop in ECUSA has become a little pope playing dictator with his/her/its diocese and the result is unbridled heresy. There is nothing 'universal' about this garbage...except that it is sin.

'Cause us to know O Lord the way wherein we should walk, for unto thee have we lifted up our souls.'
MichaelA
Posted: 2006/6/22 6:43  Updated: 2006/6/22 6:43
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From:
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 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
"There is more here than meets the eye."

That could be the signature song of the whole process!!!!

"For statistic lovers, VOL was getting as many as 30,000 unique visitors daily at the website, with tens of thousands of hits and, according to Google, some 130 bloggers lifted stories from VOL's News Service and posted them to their Blogs. We will never know how many readers worldwide read VOL's some 50 plus news stories from this convention.
I am personally grateful for a wonderful team of reporters and commentators who joined VOL for this significant occasion. I cannot praise them too highly. I stand in their shadow. I also want to thank my webmaster Mr. Robert Turner who worked obscene hours to keep the website up and running."

Thank you David, Peter, Auburn, Hans, Robert and all the others, for your fearless journalism that has lifted the lid on this whole mess.
Truthseekr
Posted: 2006/6/22 9:12  Updated: 2006/6/22 9:12
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From: terra firma ................ ( just a pilgrim passing thru )
Posts: 784
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
Quote:
Translation: If we don't send the Archbishop of Canterbury and the orthodox Global South bishops a statement that they can live with we are done for.


translation:
the only hope to spread this spiritual cancer to the anglican body further, is to remain a part of that body. We can outlast the conservative bishops from a time standpoint with the rope a dope technique. Eventually, the conservative ecusa bishops will retire, get sick, or die off. Then we, ecusa, can deny them Godly replacement bishops. This will help run off more of the conservatives, so we can take the dioceses of the Network bishops over with time, including their money, property, and mabe indoctrinate their kids if there are any kids left in ECUSA sunday school by then... so please says Frank, lets keep the dialog going, by trying not to get kicked out of the Anglican Communion...

Once we are kicked out of the healthy Christian body, our parasitical movement will eventually die off. it just is not going to work without them...

It's like...TRY to visualize this:

Its like two ticks and NO dog,
The two ticks look with hunger at each other,
Butt;
It just NOT gonna to work...

(end of translation)
=======================================

(it is soooo way past time,
to leave the ticks with no food supply,
except their fellow ticks.)
truthseekr
Leonard
Posted: 2006/6/22 11:04  Updated: 2006/6/22 11:04
Just can't stay away
Joined: 2004/11/2
From: Denver
Posts: 141
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
Translation: "Let's not throw them a bone, let's just feed 'em some tripe!"

There's always the Charismatic Episcopal Church, for folks who just can't give up the word 'episcopal.' Folks are generally just mad at us for being pretty 'charismatic' but not for compromise with immorality.........
warmac9999
Posted: 2006/6/22 11:46  Updated: 2006/6/22 11:46
Home away from home
Joined: 2004/2/16
From:
Posts: 1447
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
Words from Bishop Lee at the end of the convention.
---"gay and lesbian people and their supporters who feel we have stepped back, and the extreme right, who find it so difficult to work with those with whom they disagree".

Those of you who hail from Virginia should take a look at Bishop Lee's convention ending comments. From his perspective, it is right wing extremist who have created the problem and they are difficult to work with (I guess because they didn't like the condemnation of the Bible and the repudiation of Jesus, among other thing). Lee uses no such loaded language when he discusses the extremists in the homosexual movement who have brought the once great Episcopal church to its end.

I hope he can explain this to Truro.
DnNeal
Posted: 2006/6/22 12:18  Updated: 2006/6/22 12:18
Home away from home
Joined: 2005/9/26
From: Tennessee
Posts: 1302
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
Thank you David and thanks to Peter, Auburn, Hans, Robert and anyone else who participated in reporting this historic convention. Great job!

I look forward to what happens now. God bless all traditionalist Anglican Christians and have mercy on us all!

Neal
Causidicus
Posted: 2006/6/22 13:00  Updated: 2006/6/22 13:00
Home away from home
Joined: 2005/7/3
From:
Posts: 1065
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
It's all over but the shouting,
and,
the decision is:
TECUSA is GUILTY on all counts.

Time for execution of judgment.
gregory
Posted: 2006/6/22 13:42  Updated: 2006/6/22 13:42
Home away from home
Joined: 2004/8/4
From: Nflorida
Posts: 4423
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
"...Dr. Frankenstein (Griswold) has created his monster (ECUSA) from the corpses of ancient heresies"


gregory
Posted: 2006/6/22 13:43  Updated: 2006/6/22 13:43
Home away from home
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From: Nflorida
Posts: 4423
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
Philippa
Posted: 2006/6/22 13:59  Updated: 2006/6/22 13:59
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Joined: 2005/8/28
From:
Posts: 489
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
Well, this is a sissy little dodge-and-weave. "Not consenting to the consecration of any candidate to the episcopate whose manner of life presents a challenge to the wider church and will lead to further strains on communion".

Note it says nothing about active homosexuality; or, for that matter, nothing about being on your third marriage after two divorces.

It sets up an environment for no more than a nebulous judgment call, and we all know how good TEC is at those.

Give me a break...they would have shown more integrity to say nothing, as opposed to this limp-wristed garbage...

In the One,

Philippa
jleecbd
Posted: 2006/6/22 15:25  Updated: 2006/6/22 15:25
Not too shy to talk
Joined: 2004/11/13
From: Carlsbad, CA
Posts: 28
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
The most telling comment continues to be Griswold's statement that everyone who disagrees with Robinson's consecration (among other things) simply don't understand. Trust me. We all understand very clearly what you did, and we are telling you that it is wrong. Period.
ZachD
Posted: 2006/6/22 18:24  Updated: 2006/6/22 18:26
Home away from home
Joined: 2005/11/10
From:
Posts: 1782
 Re: VOL@GC'06: Griswold Brokers last minute resolution.
Actually, the Pallor of Griswald, and the reaction of LCREW STEW, have been the most delicious part of the whole convention.

All that is left now, is that the chips are falling where they may!

Thanks be to God!
DeaconC
Posted: 2006/6/22 23:37  Updated: 2006/6/22 23:37
Not too shy to talk
Joined: 2006/6/7
From: Middle Haddam, CT
Posts: 35
 Re: Charismatic Episcopal Church
Leonard,

Just to let you know, as a CEC deacon, the name "The Charismatic Episcopal Church" is already taken. We ar an orthodox catholic communion the is fully Catholic, fully evangelical and fully charismatic. (Charismatic Episcopal Church)

I can also tell you that because of your church (ECUSA) we have suffered the slings and arrows of those assuming that we are you. It has been very, very hard.

Blessing+

DeaconC
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