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Culture Wars : Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in this country"
Posted by David Virtue on 2005/12/18 17:20:00 (3714 reads)

Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in this country"

Compass Direct: Global News from the Frontline
December, 2005

An Iranian convert to Christianity was kidnapped last week from his home in northeastern Iran and stabbed to death, his bleeding body thrown in front of his home a few hours later. Ghorban Tori, 50, was pastoring an independent house church of convert Christians in Gonbad-e-Kavus, a town just east of the Caspian Sea along the Turkmenistan border.

Within hours of the November 22 murder, local secret police arrived at the martyred pastor's home, searching for Bibles and other banned Christian books in the Farsi language. By the end of the following day, the secret police had also raided the houses of all other known Christian believers in the city.

According to one informed Iranian source, during the past eight days representatives of the Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS) have arrested and severely tortured 10 other Christians in several cities, including Tehran. All the detainees have since been released.

One of the arrested Christians was reportedly interrogated about his involvement in relief work after Iran's deadly Bam earthquake in December 2003. Another working with a legal organization defending human rights was accused of using it as a "cover" for church activities.

In addition, MOIS officials have visited known Christian leaders since Tori's murder and have instructed them to warn acquaintances in the unofficial, Protestant house fellowships that "the government knows what you are doing, and we will come for you soon."

A former Muslim of Turkmen descent, Tori had converted to Christianity more than 10 years ago, while in Turkmenistan.

After he returned to his native Iran in 1998, Tori began to share his new Christian faith with friends and relatives. Within two years, a small fellowship of 12 believers was meeting in his home.

But not all welcomed his message; at least one relative attacked Tori, scarring his face. In the past year he received several threats from Islamic extremists vowing to kill him if he did not stop sharing his Christian faith.

Tori is survived by his wife and four children, ages 3 to 23.

He is the fifth Protestant pastor assassinated in Iran by unidentified killers in the past 11 years. Three of the five were former Muslims, under Iranian law subject to the death penalty for having committed apostasy.

Tori's murder came just days after Iran's new hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called an open meeting with the nation's 30 provincial governors. During the session, an Iranian source told Compass, Ahmadinejad declared that the government needed to put a stop to the burgeoning movement of house churches across Iran.

"I will stop Christianity in this country," Ahmadinejad reportedly vowed.

"This was apparently a green light from the president of Iran to go out and start killing Christians," the source said.

Slurring Non-Muslims

Last week a Zoroastrian representative in the Iranian Parliament protested a slur against non-Muslims on November 20 by a top aide to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

According to the government-run Entekhaab website, in a public speech Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati told youthful Basijis (members of a volunteer militia formed to enforce strict Islamic codes) preparing to join suicide missions that "non-Muslims are sinful animals who roam the earth and engage in corruption." Jannati, who is secretary general of the powerful Guardian Council, is known to be a mentor and close advisor to Ahmadinejad.

Iranian Member of Parliament Kurosh Niknam declared the comment, "an unprecedented insult to religious minorities."

Over the past month, Ahmadinejad has conducted a broad shake-up within the government establishment, replacing hundreds of governors, ambassadors and senior ministry officials with young and mostly inexperienced Islamists. Yesterday students at Tehran University protested noisily when a religious cleric without even a high school diploma was appointed rector of the nation's oldest university.

In November, the new director of prisons also transferred a number of political prisoners of conscience into criminal wards with convicted murderers and drug dealers. At least one of these political prisoners has been killed by fellow inmates, sparking the fears of Iranian Christians for the security of Hamid Pourmand, serving a three-year sentence at Tehran's Evin Prison for refusing to renounce his conversion to Christianity.

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boomercat
Posted: 2005/12/18 20:51  Updated: 2005/12/18 20:51
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 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
We shall pray for Tori and those he ministered to. God Bless him.

Just another example of the 'Religion of Peace' in action. The actions of the Iranian government are eeriely similar to what the revisionistas would like to do with the orthodox. In fact, Fr Steve and his ilk are probably taking notes and wondering how to take similar action here in the US.

It is a pity that a 'religion' founded by a highwayman, pedophile, and probable drug user has duped some many for so long.
Joe of the Mountain
Posted: 2005/12/19 1:35  Updated: 2005/12/19 1:35
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 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
Seems multiculturalism only works in one direction. Only fools refuse to see this basic truth... and they will be among the first eradicated.
essodalori
Posted: 2005/12/18 23:51  Updated: 2005/12/18 23:51
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I am sure that those bastions of religious freedom like Sweden and Canada and France will get on the ball and condemn and fight this evil - and denial of the most fundamental human right (to worship God freely).

We must pray for the souls of those martyred in Iran, and know that but for our lucky circumstances, we could be in their shoes.

With Christian love,

Essodalori
Causidicus
Posted: 2005/12/19 1:11  Updated: 2005/12/19 1:11
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The true nature of socio-religious movements are usually revealed when they gain power. The unreasoning, forced, violent religiousity of the Iranian revolution shows itself in this petty tyrant. Similarly, the unreasoning, forced, destructive forces of homoanalfecal privilege and revisionism have been showing their true nature in North America and the British Isles as they slowly install themselves into high position in the Church. The differences between these tyrants are merely ones of degree, not of kind.
Cennydd
Posted: 2005/12/19 1:57  Updated: 2005/12/19 1:57
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 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
Boomercat, sometimes I think it's best to fight fire with fire. In this case, I think it's called for! Thanks for your comments about Mohammed! Let's hope they spread throughout the Internet. The saying "cast a wide net and see what it brings in" comes to mind here. If we are going to deal with Islam, let's make sure we do it on equal terms. We have turned the other cheek long enough!
essodalori
Posted: 2005/12/19 3:02  Updated: 2005/12/19 3:02
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 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
"It is a pity that a 'religion' founded by a highwayman, pedophile, and probable drug user has duped some many for so long."

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You can add mass murderer.

Essodalori
Anonymous
Posted: 2005/12/19 16:23  Updated: 2005/12/19 21:48
 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
Dear Boomercat

I have done a fair amount of reading on the so call religion of peace and I would agree with you that highwayman (robber), pedophile (9 year old wife) and as Esso pointed out mass murderer (many Jews and Christians slaughtered over the years) correctly describes Mohammed, but I would be hesistant to call him a probable drug user. On what basis do you make such claims, and let me be clear I in no way support Islam as I think and I have said it many times, its a farce?

God Bless

BHTech
essodalori
Posted: 2005/12/19 18:09  Updated: 2005/12/19 18:09
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 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
"Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in this country""

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No you won't.

Essodalori
Traktaryan
Posted: 2005/12/19 20:31  Updated: 2005/12/19 20:31
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"ECUSA's Presiding Bishop: "I will stop Christianity in this country""
essodalori
Posted: 2005/12/19 20:33  Updated: 2005/12/19 20:33
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 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
Boy Rowan: "I will enable and support any religion in my country."

Essodalori
Anonymous
Posted: 2005/12/19 21:40  Updated: 2005/12/19 21:40
 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
"Iran's President:

"I will stop Christianity in this country""

God:

"2Cr 4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward [man] is renewed day by day.


2Cr 4:17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding [and] eternal weight of glory;


2Cr 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen [are] temporal; but the things which are not seen [are] eternal. "
^^^^^^^^
Iran's president is a poor tactitian. He is striking out at an unseen enemy and doesn't even know where the enemy is. He has no idea what weapons are necessary to win a battle, nor, if he did, where to commit them.
^^^^^^^^^
Isa 43:2 When thou passest through the waters, I [will be] with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.
^^^^^^^^^^
God grant us strength and mercy. I thank God that He has made the unseen eternal and the seen temporary. He blinds the eyes of some and gives others visions of the eternal.

Don
Anonymous
Posted: 2005/12/19 22:01  Updated: 2005/12/19 22:08
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"Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in this country"
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Were it not for the unfortunate plight of Christians in Iran and the middle east this statement would be laughable.

Of course we know try as he may he will not succeed. The question to be asked is why do such a thing? On a purely, simple human level its because Islam (and the koran) says that people should not convert from Islam to Christianity as it is a crime punishable by death. Mohammed needed control of Arabia and peoples minds and Islam served him well.

On another abstract level I believe it represents Satans control of a portion of humanity to say that anything that resembles Christ or speaks to his nature is to be hated or condemned. After all the dragon pursued the woman into the desert after her child. Her hidden offspring who would one day become the light and saviour of the world. It stands to reason therefore, that this is but one of many of Satans tactics to denounce God and put himself up in God's place, but thinly disguised in the name and face of religion that claims it is the true religion.

This is not to say that Muslims are evil for the vast majority are not. The Holy Spirit is working in the world, holding back the evil one until the anointed time, but it does go to show that for all who believe in Jesus that he will win in the end and will give all a chance to come to him.

BHTech
Jude21
Posted: 2005/12/19 23:13  Updated: 2005/12/19 23:13
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Brother Joe, you are TOTALLY right.

On the opinion page of the 19 Dec Wall Street Journal, they discuss the call by Iran's Foreign Ministry for the West to "learn to tolerate other opinions". This coming in response to some mutterings from the west regarding Iranian President Mamoud Ahmadinejad's publically stated "opinion" that the holocost was a "myth". This followed his statement 2 months ago that Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth.

Elsewhere in today's VOL, a poster yclept "Fr. Steve" opines that Pat Robertson and similar Christian Fundamentalists are the greatest danger to Christianity today. I wonder how many current day Iranian Christians would agree with him.

God bless us every one.
Joe of the Mountain
Posted: 2005/12/20 14:22  Updated: 2005/12/20 14:22
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 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
Jude, the new Ayatollah's latest command is to ban "Western" music and movies. Can't really say I disagree with him on that one...

But the Journal's editorial board is as much a proponent of "multiculturalism" as anyone. But at least they are honest about it: they favor it because it means ready access to unexploited cheap labor; they care nothing for the laborer's suitability to American citizenship, or of the effect on his local community if off-shoring is involved.

No, multiculturalism is always a Trojan Horse, masking the insideous motives of its proponents, as it is difficult for the typically Christian Sheople to stand against anything cloaked in "tolerance" and "diversity".

Pity. As another article reminds us, Jesus said, "Feed my sheep." He did not say, "Feed my Sheople."

gregory
Posted: 2005/12/21 11:29  Updated: 2005/12/21 11:29
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 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
JotM, Revisionists like Griswad and BeenaAzz have changed it to "Feed me sheep"
FBarbarosa
Posted: 2006/1/1 4:34  Updated: 2006/1/1 4:34
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 Re: Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in
We in the West are in a completely untenable situation. We have no faith in God. Our mores are abominable. When the Lord of Flies created islam to counter the faith in Christ , he knew what he was doing. Now our gluttonous, wasteful energy dependence on this part of the world has completely compromised us as human beings and as a society. Our vaunted technology merely floats on a sea of cheap oil. The moment the lights go out this marvelous computer is useful merely as a doorstop.

The right teachings on how to live a proper Christian life are still out there, as is the Bible. This world really is a moment-by-moment expression of God's Will. Our challenge is to get out of God's way. Happy 2006 to all brother and sister Anglicans. This is the year when we will finally move beyond being defined by what we are not, and toward being defined by what we are.
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