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News : Most Americans Feel Religion is 'Under Attack,' Poll Shows
Posted by David Virtue on 2005/11/22 15:40:00 (2285 reads)

Most Americans Feel Religion is 'Under Attack,' Poll Shows

By Melanie Hunter CNSNews.com Senior Editor
November 21, 2005

(CNSNews.com) - A new survey shows the majority of Americans think religion is "under attack" and "losing its influence" in American life.

According to the poll, American Attitudes Toward Religion In the Public Square, 64 percent agreed with the statement that "religion is under attack" in America, and 80 percent of those who identify themselves as fundamentalist/evangelical/charismatic Christians, were in agreement.

"The findings suggest that American public opinion is starkly divided when it comes to the role of religion in the public square, and that our nation's proud tradition of church-state separation is threatened as never before," said Anti-Defamation League national director Abraham H. Foxman.

The poll of 800 adults was conducted between Oct. 25 and 30 and released by the Anti-Defamation League.

"Unfortunately, too many people believe that religion is under attack in America, when in fact according to all measurements, religion is stronger in the United States than in any other Western country," said Foxman.

The poll also found 53 percent of respondents believe that religion is "losing" influence in American life, while 35 percent said it is "increasing influence." Among those who think religion is "losing" influence, 60 percent are evangelical/fundamental/charismatic Christians, while 33 percent of that same group said religion is "increasing" in influence.

As far as Ten Commandment cases go, 64 percent of those polled agreed with the statement that "it is important that religious symbols like the Ten Commandments be displayed in public buildings such as court housed. Eighty-nine percent of fundamentalist/evangelical/charismatic Christians agreed.

On the topic of intelligent design, the theory that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher being, 56 percent favor the teaching of intelligent design or creationism, alongside the theory of evolution in public schools. Among fundamentalist/evangelical/charismatic Christians, 70 percent favor creationism, compared to 28 percent who opposed it.

And 57 percent said "the Bible" was "a more likely explanation for the origins of human life on earth" instead of Darwin, compared to 31 percent who believe Darwin is a more likely explanation. Eighty-seven percent of evangelical/fundamentalist/charismatic Christians favored the Bible over Darwin as a better explanation of the origins of human life.

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Anonymous
Posted: 2005/11/22 18:48  Updated: 2005/11/22 18:48
 Re: Most Americans Feel Religion is 'Under Attack,'
"A new survey shows the majority of Americans think religion is "under attack" and "losing its influence" in American life."

Surprise, surprise! And they had to do a poll to show what most people in the US and Canada already know. Europe may be an exception.

BHTech
essodalori
Posted: 2005/11/22 18:57  Updated: 2005/11/22 18:57
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 Re: Most Americans Feel Religion is 'Under Attack,'
Christ is under attack by evil at all times and in all places. The problem in the West, however, is that Christians fell away to a great degree, and gave Satan many footholds in society and in the minds and souls of people.

Satan's grasp only gets stronger when he is not fought. Therefore, we must fight, and fight hard and strong and true.

With Christian love,

Essodalori
Traktaryan
Posted: 2005/11/22 19:42  Updated: 2005/11/22 19:42
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 The Enemy Within
"According to the poll, American Attitudes Toward Religion In the Public Square, 64 percent agreed with the statement that "religion is under attack" in America, and 80 percent of those who identify themselves as fundamentalist/evangelical/charismatic Christians, were in agreement."
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The poll doesn't say who is attacking religion in America.

The Episcopal Church's own House of Bishops are on the front lines of the attack, destroying their own denomination.

But that's just my interpretation.
Joe of the Mountain
Posted: 2005/11/22 19:47  Updated: 2005/11/22 20:25
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 Re: Most Americans Feel Religion is 'Under Attack,'
Quote:
"The findings suggest that American public opinion is starkly divided when it comes to the role of religion in the public square, and that our nation's proud tradition of church-state separation is threatened as never before," said Anti-Defamation League national director Abraham H. Foxman.



Ummm, Abe, that would be YOUR made-up, baloney, Hollywood-fantasy tradition of "separation of church and state". That would be YOUR pharisaical Barbra Streisand about "separation of church and state" that interprets a simple prayer to Jesus to be the Church of England (would that it was!). That would be YOUR proud tradition of killing all vesitages of Christ in the United States.

MY PROUD TRADITION is to FIGHT GODLESS BOLSHEVIKS LIKE YOU. We beat you in the Cold War and we'll beat you again now. Your lies have less and less effect because we are now wise to your manipulation of language, we are now wise to your attempts to turn our good nature and our ideals back on ourselves. We are wise to your diversionary tactics of "inclusivity" and "tolerance" and moral equivalency that no longer distract us from your antichrist war against the very people and religion that took you in and gave you shelter against your enemies.

Bring it on, Abe. Now the fight's out in the open, no longer in the shadows of obscure courts and political manoevers. And guess what? YOU LOSE. And one more thing -- you're an embarassment to your namesake.
Joe of the Mountain
Posted: 2005/11/22 20:29  Updated: 2005/11/22 20:29
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 Re: The Enemy Within
J'ECUSA! was infiltrated long ago... just as the Catholic seminaries were, probably in the 1920s when no one was looking.

For a real hoot, read David Horowitz's autobiography, Radical Son.
Anonymous
Posted: 2005/11/22 20:48  Updated: 2005/11/22 20:48
 Re: Most Americans Feel Religion is 'Under Attack,'
Joe of the Mountain is right.

Ol' Joe McCarthy was right.

Anarchist/Existential/Atheist/Commie Pinkos are wrong.

Don
Anonymous
Posted: 2005/11/22 21:21  Updated: 2005/11/22 21:21
 The Mutiny Will Fail
My own Episcopal Church is under attack by terrorists. Neo-Puritans, unable to become the dominant position in the church through the democratic process, has resorted to terrorism. But the mutiny will be put down.
essodalori
Posted: 2005/11/22 21:35  Updated: 2005/11/22 21:35
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 Re: The Mutiny Will Fail
"But the mutiny will be put down."

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True. Only Christ is the one putting it down.

With Christian love,

Essodalori
gregory
Posted: 2005/11/22 21:47  Updated: 2005/11/22 21:50
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 Re: The Mutiny Will Fail
All mutiny against God The Father, God The Son & God The Holy Spirit always fails for we have more solid witness than Abraham. If only all could have The Faith of Abraham.

Fr-steve, although i can NOT hear you over The Word,
i have been given sight to see you; Therefore,
i bless you and forgive you and mark you with the Light of Christ.
Amen

Philippa
Posted: 2005/11/22 21:57  Updated: 2005/11/22 22:01
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 Re: Most Americans Feel Religion is 'Under Attack,'
Interesting how Steve writes about the "democratic process", a "dominant position", "mutiny", and "putting down the mutiny"...Sir, you speak in terms of power. None of this, for me and probably for many other traditionalists, is about power, it's about following the TRUE teachings of the Christ.

Justice Scalia's past quote speaks for itself--"What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really says and what you'd like it to say?"

Why don't all of you just be honest and admit(as they sometimes do at Union Seminary/NYC) that you're really tossing the Scriptures and Doctrine, in order to "start over" and rewrite it all in order to permit what you want to do and advance a secular, pseudoACLU-driven agenda? Doctrine and Scripture should not be twisted just to suit your needs. Most of you are nothing but raging Unitarians running around in Anglican collars, and there's truly nothing Anglican, doctrinal, or Scriptural in what you say. What you really want is a Unitarian(or even Pagan) Liturgical Church, and, if that is the case, you should go start one instead of trying to ruin what we already have--that act, in and of itself, would have more integrity. In reality, you're rather laughable because a Unitarian Liturgical church is completely oxymoronic. But, I guess that is lost on all of you who are trying your damnedest to have it both ways, or in many cases, ALL ways. Sooner or later, the Triune God is surely going to speak to this circus on Earth, and I hope I'm there when He does.

I've said before that it'll be quite a Pyrrhic victory for you, to have supposedly "won" the "democratic process"--you'll have your theological trump cards but also a lot of beautiful churches with no one in them. This abandonment of the true Gospel is surely no more than obtuse, lost, and pathetic; I hope someday you have the sense and courage to rethink it...

In Christ,

Philippa
Anonymous
Posted: 2005/11/22 22:02  Updated: 2005/11/22 22:02
 Re: The Enemy Within
NO Traktaryan ... it is NOT "just your interpretation." You are joined by a mighty remnant.
Joe of the Mountain
Posted: 2005/11/22 22:03  Updated: 2005/11/22 22:04
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 Re: The Mutiny Will Fail
David, you're getting too good at making this stuff up!!!! You're better at it than they are!!!

ROTFLMHO!!!!!
almostrev
Posted: 2005/11/22 22:04  Updated: 2005/11/22 22:04
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 A simple example twist
"My own Episcopal Church is under attack"

I was under the assumption Fr_Steve thought the church belonged to the diocese, not to the clergy? He must obviously feel the rule applies to everyone but him. After all, he claims ownership of "My own Episcopal Church". Just an example twist, how easy it is to make one's words mean what they do not say. If anyone is bored, pick up a liberal newsletter and go looking for some. It is amazing how often they are in there.

Although were it me, I would say, "God's Episcopal Church is under attack". The problem with this statement, is that it would change who the attackers are. These "neo-puritans", an offensive term to all conservatives, would then be made the ones whose Episcopal church is "under attack by terrorists", and the liberals would be the ones attacking.

Yours in Christ,
jacob
Joe of the Mountain
Posted: 2005/11/22 22:10  Updated: 2005/11/22 22:11
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 Re: Most Americans Feel Religion is 'Under Attack,'
I think the Loon Left has adopted a triple-point strategy:

1. Co-option - suduction of the weak into self-destructive hedonism; you won't fight when you're stoned. E.g., LGBT, drugs, gambling, whatever...

2. Diversion - changing the subject to "civil rights" rather than "right and wrong" thus dividing potetial opposition forces who don't see through the gambit. E.g., Sierra Club, Democrat party, United Way...

3. Subversion - "change from within", taking over key bureaucratic and institutional positions to redirect money and effort, bringing along as many dupes as they can. E.g., J'ECUSA!, GOP, academe and other "defenders of the faith".
ArthurDoxy
Posted: 2005/11/22 23:46  Updated: 2005/11/22 23:46
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 Re: The Mutiny Will Fail
Steve said: "My own Episcopal Church is under attack by terrorists. Neo-Puritans, unable to become the dominant position in the church through the democratic process, has resorted to terrorism.

Wow! You think you've got it bad, my diocese is under attack by the "Neo-Boy Georges" and "Church Clowns." (Let the reader read: "the neo-christians").

However, I will agree that "the mutiny will be put down" . . . Probably when the last bubbles rise to the surface from the sunken hull of the ECUSA ship.
Traktaryan
Posted: 2005/11/22 23:51  Updated: 2005/11/22 23:51
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 Re: The Mutiny Will Fail
"Poster: Fr_Steve Posted: 2005/11/22 21:21:54

My own Episcopal Church is under attack by terrorists. Neo-Puritans, unable to become the dominant position in the church through the democratic process, has resorted to terrorism. But the mutiny will be put down."
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Fr Steve,

I'm always interested to hear about other peoples' faith traditions and beliefs. Tell us about your own Episcopal Church.

What is your god like? Or is yours a pantheistic religion? Does your religion have a sacred text?

What must one believe in order to belong to your religion? What are your special days? Does your church have anything similar to our Christmas and Easter? I belong to a Christian denomination. What's yours?

How did your church begin? Who are some of the important personalities in your religion? What is your church history?

What sort of organizational structure does your church have? Do your churches have steeples?

I find it interesting how other peoples' religions contrast with Christianity.
Caroll
Posted: 2005/11/23 9:25  Updated: 2005/11/23 9:25
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 Re: The Mutiny Will Fail
Oh Steve give me a break. I haven't seen such dribble since my 42 year old daughter was teething.

I was in this church before you and you know what? MY Episcopal Church has been destroyed by liberal sex-mongers who want to re-write the gospel to one of self affirmation and are leading the faithful over the cliffs into the gates of hell.

Gregory do you have any pictures for that?

I wonder what God thinks of your “democratic” church? Those are certainly your words, not HIS. Terrorism, hum since when and where? Yup the mutiny will be put down and God will prevail.
Caroll
Posted: 2005/11/23 9:33  Updated: 2005/11/23 9:33
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 Re: The Mutiny Will Fail
Nanny
Posted: 2005/11/23 16:58  Updated: 2005/11/23 16:58
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 Re: Most Americans Feel Religion is 'Under Attack,'
I notice that "Father" Steve has cluttered up this site with more than 700 silly and inane ramblings. Who is paying his salary? Is he really a "priest?" Maybe he is, considering how the Episcopal seminaries (with a couple of exceptions) have been wholly-owned by the Loon Left for decades and have cranked out countless crackpot "priests."
There is nothing more devastating to the phony Lefties than sarcasm and satire. This I find in abundance on this site. Steve and others who have been educated far beyond their intelligence are outwitted. I was at the St. Louis conclave more than three decades ago (brought about because of the approval of priestesses and the ruination of the Prayer Book) and knew that something big was coming down the pike. Here it is. God help us -- and He will.
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