EPISCOPAL CHURCH ATTENDANCE CONTINUES STEEP DECLINE
By David W. Virtue
WEST CHESTER, PA (12-10-2004)--Attendance statistics for The Episcopal Church USA in 2003 reveal a church in continued steep decline with nearly 36,000 active baptized members leaving for greener theological pastures, a significant drop from 8,000 in 2002. Another 24,000 Sunday worshippers left the ECUSA last year, more than twice the previous year.
In 2002 the church claimed a membership of 2,320,221. In 2003 it was down to 2,284,233, the church officially declared.
Some 85 parishes closed their doors - 7,305 in 2002 to 7,220 in 2003.
Average Sunday attendance in 2002 was 846,640. In 2003 it was 823,017.
The percentage of churches with any increase in average Sunday attendance (ASA) also dropped from 39 percent to 34 percent.
And for the first time churches with any loss in average Sunday attendance rose from 49 percent to 54 percent, the first time in living memory that it has reached over 50 percent.
Even those churches that were growing by 10 percent in the past five years dropped from 31 percent to 28 percent with those churches declining 10 percent in the past five years rising from 39 percent to 43 percent. Even when people leave, some churches keep them on the books.
The two parishes with the largest membership (but not necessarily attendees) were St. Martin's in Houston with 7,365 members. It claims an increase of 228 over the previous year and St. Michael's & All Angels in Dallas which rose to 7,243 from 7,166 in 2002.
But the largest attended parish in the ECUSA is the evangelical parish of Christ Church, Plano under the leadership of Canon David Roseberry. In 2003 it had 1,975 members a slight increase of 42 members over the previous year.
The number of congregations with 10 members or less jumped from 234 to 247. Those with congregations between 100 and 300 registered a significant loss in members.
The most startling figure was that the median average Sunday worship attendance of all Episcopal churches across the whole country is 77 members (down from 79).
And who's running the churches these days?
Female clergy account for 28 percent of all congregations, up from 27 percent in 2002. Solo female clergy make up 22 percent of the total. But the percentage of clergy under age 40 make up only 9 percent, with nearly 50 percent of all clergy now aged between 50 and 60. The median average age of all clergy is 53 which is also the same figure for women clergy.
The average pledge was slightly up from $1,723 in 2002 to $1,791 in 2003 a rise of $68. Total plate and pledge income rose from $1,201,765,153 to $ 1,231,401,494, with total income up from $1.993 billion to $2,044 billion.
But an insider said that the numbers reported include money given by people to their churches even when the churches are no longer supporting their diocese or 815, the church's national headquarters. "You will never get the real numbers on how much the consecration of V. Gene Robinson has cost ECUSA," he said.
On National Public Radio this week Pittsburgh bishop Robert Duncan told listeners that the purported growth statistics for those leaving the Episcopal Church were three times the decrease from the previous year.
"The purported growth statistics do not bear out V. Gene Robinson's view that the acceptance of homosexuality would make churches grow," he said in a nationwide broadcast.
In a question from Terry Gross who asked whether gays and lesbians coming into the church were counterbalancing folks that were leaving, Duncan responded saying, "The latest statistics show we lost 36,000 members last year, three times what we lost the year before."
Those dioceses which have stayed steady [to the church's doctrine] and growing like Pittsburgh, and that bishop's stand is clear on Christian transformation are growing, said Duncan.
The Rt. Rev. Dr. C. FitzSimons Allison (SC ret.) said that what is far more troublng than the numbers of people leaving the ECUSA is the quality of some of the scholars who perceive the theological bankruptcy of our leadership. "I can name almost a score of personal friends who are published scholars who have left the ECUSA, not because they are unbelieving Anglicans but beacuse they are believing Anglicans who feel there is no place in the apostasy of the House of Bishops."
"When the bishops voted down the substance of what they swore to uphold when they were consecrated in defeating Bishop Keith Ackerman's (Quincy) resolution B001, they lost any claim to respect or obedience," he said.
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| Voyager | Posted: 2004/12/10 14:07 Updated: 2004/12/10 14:07 |
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THis is excellent news....the Church of the New Pagan is refining itself, first by winnowing out all the Christians until it can be left with a filtered and refined group, a core elect of Neo-Pagans able to cavort and masquerade without being restricted by those who refer constantly to the words and to the meaning.
Free from those who profess a belief in God the Church of the New Pagan can embrace diversity, inculsivity, irrelevancy, and absurdity until the partygoers look for a new "scene" to entertain them in their self-centred boredom |
| alan1803 | Posted: 2004/12/10 14:51 Updated: 2004/12/10 14:51 |
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A couple of questions:
How is "membership" defined in ECUSA? Is this equivalent of an English parish's electoral roll, or something else? Is the identified decline peculiar to ECUSA or is it part of a decline in religious observance generally? What evidence is there that persons leaving are going elsewhere, rather than lapsing? Alan Harrison |
| Walden | Posted: 2004/12/10 16:01 Updated: 2004/12/10 16:01 |
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I am certainly glad that we are actively working on our evangelism to double the size of the Church by 2020! Our evangelism is working so well that we may very well be halved instead of double.Wonder why?
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| Voyager | Posted: 2004/12/10 16:04 Updated: 2004/12/10 16:23 |
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Well in Anglican Churches the sidesmen handing round the tin cup for contributions usually count the congregation; and I assume someone somewhere can do addition to render a total.
In the US they are probably more efficient at getting subscriptions and more sociable with parishioners thus having more contact and knowledge of their numbers |
| Anonymous | Posted: 2004/12/10 16:10 Updated: 2004/12/10 16:10 |
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Well, Alan, I am not certain myself the difference in how "membership" is defined...but I can certainly tell you this...ECUSA slide is not particular when seen with the steep slides over the last 30 years in the 4 major "Mainline" protetant churches.
And if you need an example of a member leaving and not lapsing...then I present...ME ! In fact, I am right down the road, not more than a half mile from my old parish All Souls. And guess what...my 4 kids are with me. And that spells the real doom of ECUSA and the wider Communion. For all the people that are leaving, a vast number of them have kids that will probably not join the Communion at a later date. So you will be left with the dying out, geriatric "Frozen Chosen" and the unreproducing Gay Gnostics. But...time will be the ultimate caller of rolls...as no one will be able to deny the numbers attending a parish that is closing down and being sold. |
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| Voyager | Posted: 2004/12/10 16:23 Updated: 2004/12/10 16:23 |
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Now this news story is not directly relevant to this thread......but I think it suggests a school with its children getting a better perspective on life than so many others.......and it is seasonal.....
Barn setting for school Nativity Alexandra Wood A BARN filled with farmyard animals provided the perfect scene yesterday for a school Nativity play with a difference. A donkey and her young foal played a walk-on role alongside 170 primary schoolchildren from Hull yesterday at Honeysuckle Farm, at Hornsea, in East Yorkshire. Baby Jesus was played by Gracie Todd, the great-niece of St Nicholas Primary school headteacher Beryl Turner, while donkey Penny and foal Posy added an authentic touch in the barn, where a menagerie of other animals live, including Jersey cattle, goats, cats and dogs, ferrets and guinea pigs. Children from the school have been visiting the farm for years and it had been a long-held ambition of Miss Turner to hold the school's Nativity play there. Farmer Barrie Gardham said: "Beryl has been bringing the children for many years and always wanted to do a Nativity play. When we had this foal there was no holding her. The animals are so used to children they are all friendly and not frightened at all." 10 December 2004 |
| JRoss | Posted: 2004/12/10 16:45 Updated: 2004/12/10 16:45 |
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Every parish annually submits a paraochial report indicating baptisms,confirmations, deaths, total attendance to all services, total confirmed and received members. and members who attend but are not actual members of the church. Filling out a parochial report is akin to doing one's taxes but with a lot more guessing and estimating. I could never figure out why anyone would overstate their membership when the stipend to the diocese is based on those figures. But it is rule nevertheless. So the actual figures quoted in the report may be lower than indicated.
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| nancyrowe | Posted: 2004/12/10 17:45 Updated: 2004/12/10 17:45 |
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While I can't say for sure, I would hazard a guess that the "membership" figures also include everyone on the mailing list. The church that asked me to agree with it or leave claims "members" whom I am absolutely certain never entered the church when I was a member. I've spoken with at least one Roman Catholic person in town who had no idea how his name got on their "membership" list. Maybe his child attended Sunday school once? You get the idea. I suspect many of these "churches" use this kind of data in their "membership" figures!
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| warmac9999 | Posted: 2004/12/10 18:52 Updated: 2004/12/12 21:57 |
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A trend remains a trend until some significant force changes that trend. What is described in the comments about a steep decline is not a normal change associated with the prior trends of the 1990s and early 2000s but a break in that trend. What this means is that no one can reasonably predict when the new homosexually inspired trend will abate - but what is certain is that the trend will continue at least through 2004. Since the Windsor report was a bust, there is no reason to assume that it changed anything for the better - if anything there will be another surge in membership loss. Firnally, based on past historical shifts since 1965, this negative trend will likely continue for at least 5 to 10 years before some type of plateau is reached.
One further note, the real trend is masked by the reporting year of 2003. It is likely that 30,000 of the 36,000 departures occurred between the August convention and the end of the year - a much more ominous situation because the loss occurred in approximately 4 months. If the new trend is still in place, the ECUSA will lose about 80,000 to 100,000 members in 2004. If the trend continues for 5 years, the membership loss will be in the hundreds of thousands and possibly as much at half a million. |
| wsmark | Posted: 2004/12/11 13:38 Updated: 2004/12/11 13:42 |
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Anyone who listened to the Terry Gross interview of Gene Robinson on Public Radio this week will certainly appreciate how terribly out of touch he is with the average Episcopalian and will understand why our attendance numbers are falling.
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| buddyboy | Posted: 2004/12/13 0:40 Updated: 2004/12/13 0:40 |
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This is my first posting to this web site, mainly because I'm not vey swooft with computers, and it took me a while to figure it out. Also, I apologize for the goofy user-name...it's all I could think of on short notice.
I wanted to say about the responses to this article. First, I think that parochial reports are sometimes cooked just a bit. I once took over a mission with an average attendance of 15, but it had nearly 300 on the rolls. The other thing is...and please don't take this as corrective or something...I agree with you that the ECUSA is out to lunch...it's like the inmates have taken over the asylum. What kind of gets me about the responses to the Church rapidly falling into nothing is that you somehow seem to feel vindicated...as if it needed to fail in order for you to be correct in your feelings. Of course you are correct...the church has gone crazy. But don't your hearts ache? It's kind of like seeing your sister or mother become a whore, or something. |
| buddyboy | Posted: 2004/12/13 0:45 Updated: 2004/12/13 0:45 |
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Oh...one other thing.
Maybe some parishes pay their stipend or apportionment based on numbers of active members, but I've never seen it that way. Usually, apportionment is based on the operating budget of the past 1-3 years, which makes it all the more interesting that while parishes are shrinking, the budget at some has increased...at least according to the article. |
| warmac9999 | Posted: 2004/12/13 12:47 Updated: 2004/12/13 12:47 |
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There is a great deal of hurt amongst the laity because of the ECUSA clergical behavior - and that is one of the reasons for so much resentment in many posts. Your analogy to your sister or mother becoming a whore is quite apt - the ECUSA has become a whore to modern secular political correctness rather than a hero standing up for Christian principles.
The loss of members is particularly troubling because, if you look at this logically, they are going to be young people with families. No sane young married adult with young children would risk them to the abnormalities of homosexuality or pedophilia. Old people, on the other hand, are often too tired, to ill, or just too used to ritual to fight. Bishops like Griswold, Eames, Williams are less about saving Christians than they are about saving their power. That is why schism if so anathema to these people and also why heresy is preferred. |




















