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News : Windsor 2004: Statement from Nigeria's Archbishop Akinola
Posted by Robert Turner on 2004/10/20 4:17:40 (6824 reads)

Statement on Windsor Report

From Nigeria's Primate, Archbishop Peter Akinola:

Released on Tuesday, October 19, 2004

I welcome the sincerity and hard work of those who have prepared 'The Windsor Report 2004′. After an initial reading it is clear to me that the report falls far short of the prescription needed for this current crisis. It fails to confront the reality that a small, economically privileged group of people has sought to subvert the Christian faith and impose their new and false doctrine on the wider community of faithful believers. We have watched in sadness as sisters and brothers who have sought to maintain their allegiance to the "faith once delivered to the saints" have been marginalized and persecuted for their faith. We have been filled with grief as we have witnessed the decline of the North American Church that was once filled with missionary zeal and yet now seems determined to bury itself in a deadly embrace with the spirit of the age. Instead of a clear call for repentance we have been offered warm words of sentimentality for those who have shown no godly sorrow for their actions and harsh words of condemnation for those who have reached out a helping hand to friends in need of pastoral and spiritual care.

Why, throughout the document, is there such a marked contrast between the language used against those who are subverting the faith and that used against those of us, from the Global South, who are trying to bring the church back to the Bible? Where are the expressions of deep concern for the men and women whose witness is jeopardized and whose lives are at risk because of the actions of ECUSA? Where are the words of "deep regret" for the impact of ECUSA's actions upon the Global South and our missionary efforts? Where is the language of rebuke for those who are promoting sexual sins as holy and acceptable behaviour?

The imbalance is bewildering. It is wrong to use equal language for unequal actions.

The report correctly notes that the Episcopal Church and the Diocese of New Westminster have pushed the Anglican Communion to the breaking point. It rightly states that they did not listen to the clear voices of the Communion and rejected the counsel of all four Instruments of Unity. Therefore it is surprising that the primary recommendation of the report is "greater sensitivity" instead of heartfelt repentance. Already the Presiding Bishop of ECUSA has stated that he sees no need to halt welcoming practising homosexuals into all orders of ministry! In addition, the bishop of New Westminster has indicated that same sex blessing will continue. Thus they are hell bent on destroying the fabric of our common life and we are told to sit and wait.

We have been asked to express regret for our actions and "affirm our desire to remain in the Communion". How patronizing! We will not be intimidated. In the absence of any signs of repentance and reform from those who have torn the fabric of our Communion, and while there is continuing oppression of those who uphold the Faith, we cannot forsake our duty to provide care and protection for those who cry out for our help.

The Bible says that two cannot walk together unless they are agreed. The report rightly observes that if the "call to halt" is ignored "then we shall have to begin to learn to walk apart". The Episcopal Church and Diocese of New Westminster are already walking alone on this and if they do not repent and return to the fold, they will find that they are all alone. They will have broken the Anglican Communion.

I am disappointed that an important report that was requested by the Primates who gathered at Lambeth Palace last October was not submitted to us for prayerful consideration. Instead it has been released to the entire world as if it were the final word on this troubling matter. However, before the next meeting of the Primates in February, I will now take it to the All Africa Bishops Conference that will gather in Lagos from October 26th-31st and we will have further opportunity to speak of the crisis created by the North American Church.

We commend the future of our Communion to the hands of almighty God and the prayers of all.

+ Peter Akinola

The Most Rev. Peter Akinola Primate of All Nigeria and Chairman of the Council of Anglican Provinces in Africa.



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essodalori
Posted: 2004/10/20 4:26  Updated: 2004/10/20 4:27
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"It fails to confront the reality that a small, economically privileged group of people has sought to subvert the Christian faith and impose their new and false doctrine on the wider community of faithful believers. "

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The message from ECUSA and Lambeth?

Accept homosodomy or else.

I pray, Archbishop Akinola, that you will have the strength to reject that which is ugly, sinful and depraved - and those who would embrace such depravity - in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord.

If you do, many will follow.

Essodalori
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"Where is the language of rebuke for those who are promoting sexual sins as holy and acceptable behaviour?"

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They worship sodomy, Archbishop, rather than the one who was pure and chaste and holy and of God.

Stay true to Him.

With Christian love,

Essodalori
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(rephrased below)
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Posted: 2004/10/20 4:49  Updated: 2004/10/20 4:49
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"Already the Presiding Bishop of ECUSA has stated that he sees no need to halt welcoming practising homosexuals into all orders of ministry!"

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When your teenage sons need that special talk about Christian sexual morality from your priest - Frank's minions will be there for them...

Essodalori
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What clear, concise writing! Compare it to the verbal diarrhea that occurs everytime Griswald puts pen to paper.
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Posted: 2004/10/20 5:05  Updated: 2004/10/20 5:24
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I can see why so many are getting excited about Akinola. Those who are in continuing churches should put pressure on their leaders to affiliate with the coming new non-ABC Anglican leadership--or else find some other church to associate with.
Those in ACN dioceses should stand pat until it becomes clear what Bishop Duncan is leading ACN into. If the established hierarchy just wants to play politics instead of allying with Africans or whoever is needed to penetrate the non-ACN US dioceses, leave it also. Follow the Spirit.
The majority of us in the US do not have either of the above options, but clearly we should not continue attending and pledging to ECUSA parishes. I think we should keep our names on the rolls in case a miracle occurs and we get to vote on which primate or bishop to acknowledge. I am going to be primarily worshipping in the local Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. (You can participate in almost anything you want except joining the Board without having to become a member. Presumably everything is proper to do, because the ELCA is the Condordat partner with ECUSA--they call it the CCM, Call to Common Ministry.) I'll also try to be swaying my local ultra-conservative Reformed Episcopal Church to
open up enough to be attractive to disaffected Episcopalians.
We have been praying for the wrong day(s) in October. Note that Archbishop Akinola mentions
primarily the Oct. 26-31 meeting of the African bishops. Looks to me like we will have our new church springing out of that meeting.
Dale Adams
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"I'll also try to be swaying my local ultra-conservative Reformed Episcopal Church to
open up enough to be attractive to disaffected Episcopalians."

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Hi daleadams -

What makes it 'ultra-conservative?'

(Not that I'm conservative or anything...)

Best!

Essodalori
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Posted: 2004/10/20 7:23  Updated: 2004/10/20 7:34
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I am impressed with the clarity of Peter Akinola's statements, and the sincerity of his commitment.

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I am disappointed that an important report that was requested by the Primates who gathered at Lambeth Palace last October was not submitted to us for prayerful consideration. Instead it has been released to the entire world as if it were the final word on this troubling matter. However, before the next meeting of the Primates in February, I will now take it to the All Africa Bishops Conference that will gather in Lagos from October 26th-31st and we will have further opportunity to speak of the crisis created by the North American Church.


I wonder what he really expects from the Primates meeting in February, as well as from the All Africa Bishop's Conference next week. Clearly there are two incompatible gospels in deathly embrace here, and I have read various posts expecting Bishop Akinola to be the one to initiate a clean break and become the focal point of a new faithful Anglicanism centered in Nigeria.

The problem I have with this is it is hard for me to imagine Bishop Akinola presenting himself as a new instrument of unity in a new communion, in imitation of the ABC. And why should a new communion be centered "farther south" in a Nigeria or Alexandria, in imitation of Rome, Istanbul or Canterbury? As I have suggested elsewhere, I think this should be a time of reflection and discussion regarding what a faithful communion should look like, with a covenant of communion as the central instrument of unity, then invite any who want to be part of it to sign on. Let ECUSA and whoever else exclude themselves.

Obviously, I expect CAPA to formally reject the call for them to express regret for their interventions. The question is, what more might they consider doing in conjunction with that formal rejection. Will they abandon as futile their earlier call for ECUSA to be expelled, or wait to see what happens at the Primates meeting?
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"The problem I have with this is it is hard for me to imagine Bishop Akinola presenting himself as a new instrument of unity in a new communion, in imitation of the ABC."

HI GREEBAKID. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY IS TRYING TO GET UNITY, RATHER THAN TO PROCLAIM TRUTH. HIS JOB IS NOT TO TRY TO UNIFY COMPLETELY IRRECONCILABLE POSITIONS, WHICH WILL NEVER WORK NOR HAPPEN, BUT TO PROCLAIM GOD'S TRUTH. IF AKINOLA HAS THE GUTS TO DO THAT - THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN BASIC CHRISTIAN TRUTH - AS IT HAS BEEN UNDERSTOOD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS - WILL GO WITH HIM.

IT IS THE TRUTH WHICH WILL SET YOU FREE - NOT UNITY WITH HERETICS.

And why should a new communion be centered "farther south" in a Nigeria or Alexandria, in imitation of Rome, Istanbul or Canterbury?

IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHERE IT IS. THOUGH THE LARGEST PORTION OF ANGLICANS WHO UNDERSTAND CHRISTIANITY AS IT HAS BEEN UNDERSTOOD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS ARE IN AFRICA. IT THEREFORE MAKES SENSE THAT A NEW SEE BE SET UP THERE.

As I have suggested elsewhere, I think this should be a time of reflection and discussion regarding what a faithful communion should look like, with a covenant of communion as the central instrument of unity, then invite any who want to be part of it to sign on. Let ECUSA and whoever else exclude themselves.

NO - YOU HAVE IT BACKWARDS. THERE SHOULD BE A PROCLAMATION OF WHAT IS BELIEVED TO BE THE TRUTH (IN THIS CASE - PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO SEXUAL MORALITY), AND THEN THOSE WHO AGREE CAN JOIN - AND THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN SODOMY CAN DO THEIR OWN THING.

Best!

Essdalori
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Posted: 2004/10/20 13:20  Updated: 2004/10/20 13:20
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And why should a new communion be centered "farther south" in a Nigeria or Alexandria, in imitation of Rome, Istanbul or Canterbury?

In response, I would ask: Why should the Son of God come as a carpenter in the Middle East? Why didn't Jesus choose to appear in Rome or Greece?

God's ways are not our ways.

I'm am not personally ready at-this-moment to sign on the bottom line with +Akinola but I certainly admire him and support his courageous statements. I suggest he is probably filled with the Holy Spirit and is exercising a prophetic voice which he undoubtedly shares with John the Baptist and Isaiah.
Anonymous
Posted: 2004/10/20 13:33  Updated: 2004/10/20 13:33
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To: Archbishop Peter Akinola

Let me be among what I'm sure are the millions who are praying and hoping for you to step up and be our new leader. I am convinced and thankful that God has called you to do so.

The world is watching and waiting for you to lead us back to where we belong. Please accept this historical moment as divinely orchestrated for the good of the world.

In His name,

pdt
Visalia, California
dwstroudmd
Posted: 2004/10/20 15:38  Updated: 2004/10/20 15:38
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As the hymn of my youth recalls, "Wherever He leads, I'll go". If Jesus calls the faithful in what was once the Anglican Communion to a faithful Global South locus, I'll follow. In deed and word.

I shall not worship the zeitgeist nor unity, but only God, great Three-in-One, made known in His Incarnation, Death, and Resurrection, and in-dwelling Holy Spirit. As the ABC and ECUSA have abandoned that Faith so I them. "Where to, Lord?"
daleadams
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The Reformed Episcopal Church is officially by its Thirty-Five Articles wholesomely Evangelical, but its leadership over the century after its 1871 founding harkened after the new fad of Fundamentalism. More recently the diminishing number of Calvinists have found their native denominations have no place for them, so they have migrated to the REC, at least in the Vacaville parish. Engaging them in conversation is a frightening experience; they have no hesitation consigning almost everyone to eternal punishment in Hell.
Or are you a strict Calvinist yourself, Esso?
Dale Adams
Hogan
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Archbishop Akinola: Praise the Lord! Martin Luther couldn't have said it any better!
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Posted: 2004/10/20 17:50  Updated: 2004/10/20 17:50
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Praise the Lord for a Godly shepherd like Abp. Akinola. I hope that God will send someone to step forward to re-unite and lead the Orthodox Anglicans.

The Archdruid of Canterbury has washed his hands like Pontius Pilate. The die is cast. Rowan Williams has turned the C of E into the "Church of What's Happening Now". There is no hope there anymore. It's time to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

Perhaps ++Akinola is the man to lead the faithful out of Egypt?

In His Name,
Bill
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Posted: 2004/10/20 18:06  Updated: 2004/10/20 18:06
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Dale,

I live in northern California and was wondering what else you know of the Vacaville REC.

I was at St. John's, Petaluma (DNC, under the nefarious Bishop Jerry Lamb) from Advent '99 - Advent '03.

As a "strict Calvinist," I find little hope in the ECUSA and most American-Anglican bodies, as most seem bent on Anglo-catholicism and/ or charismaticism.

Yours in Him,
Hugh
hughmc5@hotmail.com

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Anonymous
Posted: 2004/10/20 18:15  Updated: 2004/10/20 18:15
 Akinola's Answer
Amen, brethren.

Akinola is sounding the long-overdue alarm that light and dark cannot peacefully coexist.

May God give him and the saints in CAPA the bold resolve to secede from unequal yoking with the western heretics.

2 Cor. 6:14-7:1 gives us God's direction:

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? [15] And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? [16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. [17] Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, [18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. [7:1] Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God."

God bless you all.

In Him,
Hugh
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Posted: 2004/10/20 19:01  Updated: 2004/10/20 19:01
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So what are the exact dates for the CAPA meeting, and when can we expect some news out of them? I've got to figure out where I'm going to church on Sunday....
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Dale,
You could try one of the APCK churches, North Highlands, San Francisco, or Oakland.
I'm concerned about where the ECLA is going.
I copied this from their website.


The 2001 Churchwide Assembly has mandated that this church engage in a study on homosexuality and a study on sexuality. The first is to deal with the blessing of same-gender unions and the rostering of persons in committed gay or lesbian relationships. The second is to lead to the development of a social statement on sexuality
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"Engaging them in conversation is a frightening experience; they have no hesitation consigning almost everyone to eternal punishment in Hell.
Or are you a strict Calvinist yourself, Esso?"

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No, DaleAdams, I'm not a Calvinist.

However, I believe that hell exists - since the Son of God told us, over and over, that it does.

I also believe that most people will not be saved - because the Son of God told us so.

I believe it's a narrow path to salvation, because the Son of God told us so.

People don't like to believe any of that, because it would be so much nicer and more convenient not to.

I take the Son of God at his word.

With Christian love,

Essodalori
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It's apparent now that the Episcopal Church has no intention of changing. The time has come for those who are faithful to God's word to show ECUSA the door, or as we say here in the South, give them the left foot of fellowship.

I left several months ago & went to the Episcopal Missionary Church. It was a decision I have not regretted. It was indeed a breath of fresh air.

You must do whatever you feel (stay or go) the Lord is calling you to do. For me, it just came down to the fact that I am called to be an Ambassador of Christ while on this earth. Time is to short to get into Church fights or try to change the minds of the ones who obivously have no intention of changing.

His will be done.
Anonymous
Posted: 2004/10/20 23:19  Updated: 2004/10/20 23:19
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Was it not +Peter who started things up in Rome?

Could we not have a new beginning in Africa? How ironic that he leads us to our own orthodoxy. How ironic that his name is Peter. How ironic that our PB is named for the protagonist of a movie with the plot of a dirty joke.

many phemoses
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HughMc: I'm a "strict" 5-pointer, myself. Actually, I never encountered any others in ECUSA during the many years I was there - I fled as a result of Spong, our then diocesan bishop.
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Posted: 2004/10/21 0:29  Updated: 2004/10/21 0:29
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It sounds like not a few of us are in northern California!

I'm currently living in Santa Rosa (55 miles north of SF), and taught New Testament at the APCK seminary St. Joseph's in Berkeley two years ago.

The APCK is 1928 BCP, spikey (high church Anglo-Catholic), but was very good to this token Calvinist for the time I was there. Archbishop Morse is blessed old warrior, having fought against the madness of Pike, and leaving the ECUSA in 1977 to form the APCK.

Anyone else out there in nor Cal know of something low church and evangelical they can recommend? What about the REC in Vacaville?

Please send me an email.

Thanks,
Hugh McCann
hughmc5@hotmail.com
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PB1928CT
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Hey Hugh,
I never heard the term spikey before. Can you clarify? Thanks
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Hogan,
There are not many Calvinists in ECUSA, but there are 50-100 priests who are, including me. It does get pretty lonely.... I grew up Presbyterian, and I was a member of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church from my teens to my mid-20's.

I am also moderately charismatic (I don't see any place in Scripture where the Lord said that he would stop giving the more dramatic gifts of the Spirit. such gifts are certainly capable of being abused, but that means we should use them scripturally, not forbid them.)

Anyway, Calvinists are not absent from ECUSA -- at present! I expect that there will be far fewer, if any, before very long.
Hogan
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anglicanxn: well, it's good to know that there are some of you guys out there. Of course, I was in the Newark Diocese - not very hospitable to Calvinists, I'm afraid. If there were any, they really didn't admit it.

By the way, I'm "mildly" charismatic myself - having come to the Lord after reading Bennett's "Nine O'Clock in the Morning," and "The Holy Spirit and You."
Hogan
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CALVINISM FOR REVISIONIST ANGLICANS:

T = YOU ARE TOTALLY DEPRAVED IF YOU ARE HOMOPHOBIC

U = ALL ELECTIONS FOR BISHOP ARE UNCONDITIONAL

L = THE ATONEMENT CAN ONLY BE LIMITED BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE BISHOPS.

I = ANYBODY WITH "GRACE" IN HIS/HER TITLE CANNOT BE LAWFULLY RESISTED.

P = ALL ORTHODOX ANGLICANS MUST PERSEVERE IN ECUSA, AND BE QUIET.
essodalori
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Really, really, good one, Hogan!!!!

Cheers,

Essodalori
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From Essodalori
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As I have suggested elsewhere, I think this should be a time of reflection and discussion regarding what a faithful communion should look like, with a covenant of communion as the central instrument of unity, then invite any who want to be part of it to sign on. Let ECUSA and whoever else exclude themselves.

NO - YOU HAVE IT BACKWARDS. THERE SHOULD BE A PROCLAMATION OF WHAT IS BELIEVED TO BE THE TRUTH (IN THIS CASE - PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO SEXUAL MORALITY), AND THEN THOSE WHO AGREE CAN JOIN - AND THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN SODOMY CAN DO THEIR OWN THING.


I don't think we have much difference here. I'm thinking of a Covenant of Communion to include a "proclamation of what is believed to be the truth." I'm suggesting a discussion would be useful to determine what such a proclamation/covenant should look like. Didn't even the Network require some discussion to obtain some consensus?

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And why should a new communion be centered "farther south" in a Nigeria or Alexandria, in imitation of Rome, Istanbul or Canterbury?

IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHERE IT IS. THOUGH THE LARGEST PORTION OF ANGLICANS WHO UNDERSTAND CHRISTIANITY AS IT HAS BEEN UNDERSTOOD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS ARE IN AFRICA. IT THEREFORE MAKES SENSE THAT A NEW SEE BE SET UP THERE.


I should have included York in my list, but my question is why should a new communion be centered anywhere, rather than being centered around a proclamation/covenant?

As to your earlier paragraph, the ABC isn't likely to accept your job description and proclaim truth instead of a gospel of unity, and by recent reports, Bishop Akinola will proclaim truth, but not leave the communion. So the deathly embrace continues.
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