ACNA Recognized in Spirited Debate by Church of England Synod
Archbishops of Canterbury and York must report back to Synod next year.
By David W. Virtue in London
www.virtueonline.org
2/10/2010
A spirited debate by the Church of England Synod saw the newly formed Anglican Church in North America recognized by all three houses – bishops, clergy and laity in an overwhelming vote.
The final vote was 309 in favor, 69 against and 17 recorded abstentions.
The following is the final draft of the resolution.
“That this Synod aware of the distress caused by recent divisions within the Anglican churches of the United States of America, recognize and affirm the desire of those who have formed the Anglican church in North America (ACNA) to remain within the Anglican family; acknowledge that this aspiration, in respect both of relations with the Church of England and membership of the Anglican Communion, raises issues which the relevant authorities of each need to explore further; and invite the Archbishops to report further to the Synod in 2011.”
The original motion by Lorna Ashworth, “that this Synod express the desire that the Church of England be in communion with the Anglican Church in North America,” was defeated. She expressed satisfaction with the final amended resolution.
The original motion went through several amendments, but the final vote after nearly three hours of debate made it clear that ACNA deserved to be recognized as Anglican but delegates needed a year to think and pray over it. Both the Archbishops of Canterbury and York voted for the final amended resolution.
On any kind of reading the passage of this resolution sends a signal to The Episcopal Church that they are not the only Anglican players in North America and the actions of TEC at GC2009 accelerated what took place here today.
Many will view this as a slap in the face at Presiding Bishop Jefferts Schori and an affirmation of the ministry and ecclesiastical authority of ACNA Archbishop Robert Duncan.
One observer said this should have been a decade’s long process but it was clearly truncated and brought to a head by actions of the Episcopal Church over passage of two resolutions D025 and C056 last summer in Anaheim, California.
Motions to pass to next business and to adjourn the debate were lost.
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ARCHBISHOP ROBERT DUNCAN RESPONDS TO SYNOD VOTE
General Synod Affirms Anglican Church in North America
By Archbishop Robert Duncan
http://anglicanchurch.net/?/main/page/76
February 10, 2010
Today, the General Synod, the national assembly of the Church of England, meeting in London February 8-12, affirmed the Anglican Church in North America's desire "to remain within the Anglican family."
The Most Rev. Robert Duncan, archbishop of the Anglican Church in North America, thanked Mrs. Lorna Ashworth of Chichester for bringing the church to the attention of the General Synod. "We are very grateful to Mrs. Ashworth and the scores of other friends in the Synod of the Church of England for all they did to give us this opportunity to tell our story to the mother church of the Anglican Communion. It is very encouraging that the synod recognizes and affirms our desire to remain within the Anglican family." said Archbishop Duncan.
A private member's motion, put forward by Mrs. Ashworth, and subsequently amended by the Synod, states that "this synod...recognize and affirm the desire of those who have formed the Anglican Church in North America to remain within the Anglican family." The motion passed by a resounding 309 - 69 margin (with seven abstentions).
The motion was amended by the Right Reverend Michael Hill, the Bishop of Bristol. His purpose, in his own words, was "(1) to encourage those who are part of the Anglican Church in North America;
(2) to commend the process of recognition afforded by the Instruments of the Anglican Communion; and
(3) to ask the Archbishop of Canterbury to report progress back to Synod in a year's time."
The discussion at Synod presented an important opportunity for members of the Anglican Church in North America, joined by many friends in the United Kingdom, to share the vision and mission of the church with fellow Anglicans.
"We are deeply thankful that we were given the opportunity to tell the Synod about our church, and our vision for reaching North America with the transforming love of Jesus Christ. This chance to speak directly to our Anglican family was very rewarding. We look forward to working with the friends we made and reaching out to others in the years ahead," said Bishop Donald Harvey, who, with Mrs. Cynthia Brust, Dr. Michael Howell, and the Rev. Dr. Tory Baucum, represented the Anglican Church in North America in preparation for the Synod vote.
The Anglican Church in North America, founded in June of 2009 with 703 congregations, today unites 800 Anglican congregations across North America. The church's mission is to reach North America with the Transforming Love of Jesus Christ.
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CANA Welcomes General Synod Affirmation of ACNA
HERNDON, Va. (February 10, 2010) - The Convocation of Anglicans in North America (CANA) welcomed the news that the General Synod affirmed the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA)'s desire to "remain with the Anglican family" today. CANA is a founding member of ACNA.
"This is a significant step forward for the ACNA and for all orthodox Anglicans in the U.S. We are grateful to the General Synod for recognizing the home that has been created for those Anglicans who wish to remain a part of the worldwide Anglican Communion. Both ACNA and CANA have provided that home at a crucial time in the life of the church. Today's affirmation from the General Synod is a welcome response to that need," said CANA Missionary Bishop Martyn Minns.
The Convocation of Anglicans in North America (http://www.canaconvocation.org/) is an association of orthodox Anglican congregations in North America that is a part of the worldwide Anglican Communion, a community of 77 million people.
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| Cennydd | Posted: 2010/2/10 15:22 Updated: 2010/2/10 15:25 |
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While this news isn't what many hoped they would hear, I suppose one could say that "half of a loaf is better than no loaf at all."
Now I think it behooves us all to exert greater effort to ensure that our message goes out loud and clear, and that we do not let Schori and Company derail the ACNA's efforts to finally resolve the issue. Archbishop Duncan and the rest of the ACNA leadership....and our allies in the Communion....must step up the pressure and keep it on. If in 2011 we do not succeed, then we need to think seriously about where we intend to go. For the moment, at least, I think we've gained some ground. Cennydd |
| ctowles | Posted: 2010/2/10 15:54 Updated: 2010/2/10 15:56 |
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"Many will view this as a slap in the face at Presiding Bishop Jefferts Schori and an affirmation of the ministry and ecclesiastical of ACNA Archbishop Robert Duncan."
If you play hardball, you get slapped around some. If one would point to a singular event it was General Convention acts of this last summer that Rowan came and warned about in advance. There is no one to blame but themselves. The year wait is about what happens in LA. TEC either backs down or welcomes a new pardner in North America that they are not in communion with. |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2010/2/10 16:10 Updated: 2010/2/10 16:10 |
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If TEC doesn't back down, it'll make them look even worse than they do now.
Cennydd |
| ctowles | Posted: 2010/2/10 16:10 Updated: 2010/2/10 16:10 |
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If they don't let the ACNA in next year after this vote there won't be a second chance. ACNA will begin planting churches in England for there are many we know in England who believe as we do. By letting ACNA in they solve their own problem also. Choose ACNA or lose 1/2 of your church to ACNA. The die is cast.
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| Cennydd | Posted: 2010/2/10 16:14 Updated: 2010/2/10 16:14 |
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Our diocese is a founding member of the ACNA, and in fact, we led the charge!
Cennydd |
| Engus | Posted: 2010/2/10 16:58 Updated: 2010/2/10 16:58 |
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I fear that what I said on another thread, (namely kick the can down the road a bit), might be at play here.
Delay and kill wouldn't be above the doings of TEC, in my opinion. An attempt to undermine and prevaricate prompted by Schori, perhaps ? The Devil, as they say, is in the details..... |
| marinemama | Posted: 2010/2/10 17:05 Updated: 2010/2/10 17:06 |
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I don't think the resolution as passed affirms anything but the desire of the ACNA to be part of the communion. It doesn't recognize the ACNA as a member of the communion; it merely recognizes the ACNA's desire to be part of the communion. And why on earth does the CofE need time to think and pray about it? It's not like the ACNA just popped up last week. This is nothing more than the same old delaying tactics - more discussion and thought and prayer. What do you think will happen next year? I'm willing to bet there will be a call for more discussion. That's the MO of both TEC and Anglicans in general. Probably TEC isn't happy with the vote. Undoubtedly they would have preferred an outright rejection of the ACNA.
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| Engus | Posted: 2010/2/10 17:15 Updated: 2010/2/10 17:15 |
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I stated on another thread that today's Resolution would be chewed around like a piece of steak from a $5.00 buffet, and it was.
The first motion failed something like 166 to 230, I believe ? Push it down the road.... don't make us decide now....we need to time to 'reflect and pray'..... Next year, uhm, maybe...... As Dante said : 'there is a special place in Hell reserved for those, who, in times of great moral crisis maintain their neutrality'. |
| daveball | Posted: 2010/2/10 17:39 Updated: 2010/2/10 17:39 |
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I agree that the resolution as stated affirms nothing other that what was already obvious, namely that the ACNA "desired" to be part of the communion. The motion achieved a large majority in the vote because nobody wanted to make a decision and take a stand. This is the fastest way to pidgeonhole the question. Next year there will be some other motion to "further discern". In the meantime TEC will move on with its plan to become an all gay and female club. You'll know they have reached their goal when the vestment colors for Pentecost are pink.
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| FREUR | Posted: 2010/2/10 18:11 Updated: 2010/2/10 18:11 |
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So when this comes up next year and the C of E has women bishops will the ACNA turn their heads the other way and accept acceptance?
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| ETaylor | Posted: 2010/2/10 18:24 Updated: 2010/2/10 19:51 |
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Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little
Cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little Cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little Cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more Cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep See y'all in a year -- that's when we start the "listening process!" And that's the name of that tune. ![]() |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2010/2/10 19:00 Updated: 2010/2/10 19:00 |
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I'm going to stick my two cents in again and say that the decision will be formalized by the primates when they meet again....in February of next year, I believe. Nothing is set in stone yet, so don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Cennydd |
| john123 | Posted: 2010/2/10 19:32 Updated: 2010/2/10 19:32 |
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What a sorry sight. You have been had and you cannot see it.
Better to have half a loaf. Nonsense. You have nothing. And when it comes to our religious beliefs, in this instance it is better to have no loaf at all. Who wants another year of this nonsense. I suspect that most non-revisionists will now move on. Cennydd. Can you show me where Williams has stood tall for your position? Can you show me where he has denied what the TEC has and is doing to the Orthodox? I rest my case. Dream on. The game is over. |
| daveball | Posted: 2010/2/10 19:42 Updated: 2010/2/10 19:42 |
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What will be formalized next year and by whom? The composition of the Synod of the C of E is becoming increasingly revisionist just like TEC as conservatives leave. The move to consecrate female bishops will drive out even more conservatives so who will be left to vote? Just a more liberal mob that the one which rejected recognition this year. Secondly, next year's Synod will is unlikely to even consider the matter because this year's resolution gave the Archbishops until the end of 2011 to "pray about and report back" on the matter. That means they can ignore the issue until 2012. Third, assuming, as appears likely, that the C of E will OK consecrating females bishops, do any of us who consider ourselves traditionalists or orthodox want, in good concience, to be in communion with those who hold revisionist belief and practice? I don't. By accepting the sin of others, one becomes guilty of the sin, is that not so? Why did we leave TEC?
Then the big question - why do we even want to be in communion with the C of E? It is rapidly becoming the British distributor of TEC. |
| BhamAtty | Posted: 2010/2/10 20:03 Updated: 2010/2/10 20:03 |
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Effect on Sewanee coming sooner than expected!
This development, and those soon to follow, will bring increasing urgency to Bishop Alexander for removing the words "in the Anglican tradition" from the purpose statement of Sewanee: The National Gay Episcopal University. "Sewanee: The National Gay Episcopal University. Send us your children, we transform them by keeping those Anglicans outside the Sewanee gates, just to make sure they don't interfere or hold us up to Biblical scrutiny. McCardell is in over his head." http://theology.sewanee.edu/academics/Mission%20Statement University Purpose Statement THE UNIVERSITY OF THE SOUTH is an institution of the Episcopal Church dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge, understanding, and wisdom in close community and in full freedom of inquiry, and enlightened by Christian faith in the Anglican tradition, welcoming individuals from all backgrounds, to the end that students be prepared to search for truth, seek justice, preserve liberty under law, and serve God and humanity. THE COLLEGE OF ARTS AND SCIENCES is committed to the development of the whole person through a liberal arts education of the highest quality. Outstanding students work closely with distinguished and diverse faculty in a demanding course of humane and scientific study that prepares them for lives of achievement and service. Providing rich opportunities for leadership and intellectual and spiritual growth, while grounding its community on a pledge of honor, Sewanee enables students to live with grace, integrity, and a reverent concern for the world. THE SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY educates women and men to serve the broad whole of the Episcopal Church in ordained and lay vocations. The School develops leaders who are learned, skilled, informed by the Word of God, and committed to the mission of Christ’s church, in the Anglican tradition of forming disciples through a common life of prayer, learning, and service. Sewanee’s seminary education and world-wide programs equip people for ministry through the gift of theological reflection in community. Statements adopted by the Board of Trustees October 2007 |
| AFS1970 | Posted: 2010/2/10 20:17 Updated: 2010/2/10 20:17 |
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I am glad that I am not the only one who sees that this does nothing but recognize the ACNA's desire to be Anglican. To further the bread motif, this is not half a loaf at all, it is merely the baker recognizing tat the ACNA is in fact hungry.
I have long held the belief that desiring communion with the CoE is a failing of the ACNA, but I too wonder if this will become more or less evident depending on what they do internally in this waiting period. I am also a little troubled by the fact that the synod thinks they should now start praying about the decisions they make. I always thought that the votes that a delegate to a synod cast should always have been guided by prayer. Then again if that were the case, we would not have WO or HO, or even the 1979 BCP. |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2010/2/10 20:42 Updated: 2010/2/10 20:44 |
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John123, I think you may have misunderstood my meaning: I am not completely satisfied with the results of this vote, and that does not mean that I'm willing for the ACNA to be in association with Canterbury....and most certainly NOT with Schori and Company and their cohorts, whom I regard as so many mere sychophants who are more than willing to bend to her will.
I would hope that the leadership of the ACNA will consider going with GAFCON in the likely event of a split in the Communion. I think it may be that once the two lesbians are consecrated by the Diocese of Los Angeles later this spring, the impetus for such a split will grow to the point that it will occur, and we will be a part of it. Since I am not a seer, I of course have no way of foretelling the future, and all I can do is predict and hope for the best. Cennydd |
| Engus | Posted: 2010/2/10 21:31 Updated: 2010/2/10 21:35 |
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Cennydd :
Let's take an honest look at what has taken place. The wording of the original motion was to this cause: 'That this Synod express the desire that the CofE be in communion with the ACNA.' In effect, changed to: '...recognizes and affirms the ACNA’s desire to be part of the Anglican Communion.' A completely reversed statement. Half a loaf ? They've allowed you to sniff the loaf, and nothing more. You must understand the politics at play here and the word wizards who are playing the game. One does not need to be a seer to understand what took place today. You don't need to be able to foretell the future. The future came today, and the Synod gave the ACNA a spiritual wedgie. The reckoning has been postponed and some will look to that bright and happy day in 2011 when it will once again be pulled away like Lucy pulls away Charlie Brown's football. |
| Balthazar | Posted: 2010/2/10 21:35 Updated: 2010/2/10 21:35 |
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TWO lesbians?
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| Engus | Posted: 2010/2/10 21:56 Updated: 2010/2/10 21:56 |
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Anyone who would care to listen to the audio portion of today's session dealing with the ACNA, can do so at this site :
1764A and 1764B. Click on audio link below (D) . http://www.cofe.anglican.org/news/gsfeb100210pm.html |
| Chesty | Posted: 2010/2/10 22:29 Updated: 2010/2/10 22:29 |
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Everyone should take a step back and consider the stark contrast between this Synod's statement and the Pope's offer.
This statement is nothing but a piece of diplomatic fluff. While the AofC made a point to graciously apologize to homosexuals, this statement, and the earlier rejection of the stronger proposal (not to mention the issue of women bishops), is an indication of just how little respect the CofE has for the orthodox. While you may not agree with everything in the apostolic constitution, at least you know exactly where the Pope stands. On top of that, some of the provisions of the apostolic constitution are a very significant gesture of respect and generosity to conservative Anglicans. After this Synod, I no longer see why any conservatives are still waiting to accept Rome's offer. |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2010/2/10 22:44 Updated: 2010/2/10 22:44 |
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Yep, Balthazar, TWO of 'em! Both of them to be suffragans in the Diocese of Los Angeles!
Now how does THAT grab ya? Cennydd |
| AFS1970 | Posted: 2010/2/11 1:05 Updated: 2010/2/11 1:05 |
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The recent CoE vote has little if anything to do with the offer from Rome. As the ACNA as well as the Continuum have figured out, it is quite possible to be Anglican without being in either TEC or accepting Romes offer.
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| rpagliughi | Posted: 2010/2/11 11:33 Updated: 2010/2/11 11:33 |
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Well, I think this is half a victory. I was hoping for a more definitive vote of total affirmation. But such is the way the english do things:
Yes...but...(wait a year to decide fully). Hummmm. Anyway, This obviously sends a clear message to TEc. No money or influence can cover over TEc disregard for not being truthful, for not adhering to sacred scripture and sacred tradition. ACNA you have had a wonderful start...stay true to scripture, tradition, and may it's leaders be holy, humble, and honest men and watch how the Holy Spirit can bless you. And maybe down the road we can truly be in full communion with the Church Catholic worldwide!!! People, keep on praying throughout the year for a fully favorable decision next year at the C of E synod. God Bless us All!!! ![]() |
| daveball | Posted: 2010/2/11 12:13 Updated: 2010/2/11 12:13 |
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rpagliughi,
Read the resolution again. TEC won more than the ACNA. Schori's objective was to keep the Synod from endorsing the ACNA and that is what happened. Further, the Archbishops have until the END of 2011 to report back to the Synod which will no doubt take until the end of 2011 so the earliest that any further consideration to recognition can be held is the 2012 Synod. Schori won a 2 year reprieve. There is a good chance at that in 2012 more "discernment" will be undertaken. Why do I say this? Because Rowan the Lost is a liberal and has consistently backed TEC and the Synod is becoming increasingly liberal. They do not support Biblical Christianity. When the C of E endorses and implements female bishops, something WO supporting Bishop Duncan has said won't happen in the ACNA, how can ACNA be in communion with them? There will be no difference between C of E and TEC. It will also be very hard for a significant part of ACNA to accept such a recognition. The push to be "recognized" by the C of E should be dropped. It will be more divisive that healing. |
| AllanP | Posted: 2010/2/11 12:15 Updated: 2010/2/11 12:15 |
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The "game" is not over until God says so. Therefore onward Christian Soldiers!
If in one year if the CoE has gone down the same road to hell as ACoC and TEC have than let us embrace a new Communion. One that will rise up and replace WAC. Perhaps God has already laid the foundation stone for this in the form of GAFCON. Perhaps we eventually end up having some form of Communion with Rome. The "game" is not over. If anything "the game is afoot". |
| Bulwark | Posted: 2010/2/11 12:18 Updated: 2010/2/11 12:18 |
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Given the glacial pace with which things move in the Anglican Communion, this was an excellent first step. Congratulations and thanks be to God for those who carefully led in this process to bring this about now.
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| AFS1970 | Posted: 2010/2/11 17:24 Updated: 2010/2/11 17:24 |
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Yes, this did send a clear message to TEC, that message was that the CoE will do as they are told.
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| Angusdei | Posted: 2010/2/11 23:03 Updated: 2010/2/11 23:04 |
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Fellas, fellas!
I think we're missing the point of the discussion. After all, we have yet to see any sign of real balls from Rowan and C of E for years now. This is at least one little baby step in a more conservative direction. Of course, we're not going to be happy about it or settle for anymore burnt offerings from the Anglican Communion. At least there is some sign from the Ecclesiatica that we are not happy with TEC, ACC. And most important, the slap happy liberals can no longer confess that those poor departed souls from TEC, ACC are living out their religious lives in oblivious sanctimonious exile. Some of us are still there in their churches and are ready to jump at the chance to restore even an ounce of orthodoxy in the Church. Stop bickering about what wasn't said, and expound on what may come from this debate. Positive thinking is not just a liberalist idea, you know. |
| Engus | Posted: 2010/2/13 22:08 Updated: 2010/2/14 0:32 |
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I fail to see much to be positive about, frankly.
With due respect, the ACNA approached the CofE hoping for little more than Communal recognition. That the ACNA is Anglican in Faith, and is soundly grounded in the Anglican expression of Faith. In return, the Synod flipped the request around, permitting the CofE to remain silent as to the question, and basically give the ACNA the high hat. I'm a fairly positive person and I'm fairly positive that this time next year, the CofE will find a way to dance around the question yet again and the ACNA will be asked to pray and wait a little longer. The ECUSA has too much clout to be bucked aside. You mentioned the ACC in your post. What is your opinion of the ACC, if I may ask? |
| marinemama | Posted: 2010/2/15 12:52 Updated: 2010/2/15 12:54 |
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I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that there is no way someone of good conscience can remain in not only TEC, but in the larger communion. I don't see any major church leader, anywhere, willing to take a positive stand for Christ and His teachings. It seems to me - as it has from the beginning - that unity of the communion is the true god for Anglicans, a god valued more highly than the one true God. For that unity, Anglicans will sell out everything else. I love the Anglican tradition, but I question whether one can be Anglican and truly Christian. I don't believe the whole conflict is going to have a good ending. I believe that the discussion and delay will go on forever - or until the traditionalists give up and shut up, or leave.
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| DavidJacks | Posted: 2010/3/3 23:16 Updated: 2010/3/3 23:16 |
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Reading about this ACNA makes me think that it is really a new "sort of" Anglican Church which does not really want to hurt anyone's feelings.
I can't see any advantage whatsoever to becoming part of a world wide Anglican Communion which includes the CofE and TEC. What's Orthodox about that. I guess some feel that a break with TEC automatically makes one Orthodox. There are perfectly good Orthodox Anglican Churches in the United States of America. You don't have to go to South America, Africa, or England to be part of one of those. Why, since the masthead of this forum says it is the Voice of Orthodox Anglicanism, is not more attention paid to the Continuing Anglican Churches? Regards to All; |




















