Traditional Anglican Communion in UK accepts Pope's invitation
By Stephen Smuts
http://tinyurl.com/ybdlfcb
November 5, 2009
The Traditional Anglican Communion in England has accepted Pope Benedict XVI's invitation of a Ordinariate.
The following appears on their website:
The Resolutions
That this Assembly, representing the Traditional Anglican Communion in Great Britain, offers its joyful thanks to Pope Benedict XVI for his forthcoming Apostolic Constitution allowing the corporate reunion of Anglicans with the Holy See, and requests the Primate and College of Bishops of the Traditional Anglican Communion to take the steps necessary to implement this Constitution.
That this Assembly is of the respectful opinion that Bishop Robert Mercer CR might be considered for the position of Ordinary in Great Britain.
I know Bishop Mercer personally and believe that he makes a wonderful candidate for this position.
This information was here. It would appear as if the Holy Father's gracious invitation is already beginning to bear much fruit.
The news was reported on the Catholic blog Signum, which is based here in South Africa.
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Anglican Province Accepts Pope's Offer
by EDWARD PENTIN
http://www.ncregister.com/daily/anglican_province_accepts_popes_offer/
November 05, 2009
The Traditional Anglican Communion's province in Great Britain has become the first to accept Pope Benedict XVI's Apostolic Constitution for Anglicans.
All its members voted unanimously to come into communion with Rome under the terms of the new provision, which allows them to retain their Anglican patrimony.
An undated statement on the province's website reads:
"That this Assembly, representing the Traditional Anglican Communion in Great Britain, offers its joyful thanks to Pope Benedict XVI for his forthcoming Apostolic Constitution allowing the corporate reunion of Anglicans with the Holy See, and requests the Primate and College of Bishops of the Traditional Anglican Communion to take the steps necessary to implement this Constitution."
A statement from Bishop David Moyer of the Traditional Anglican Communion reads:
"The well-attended Assembly was a grace-filled gathering where all in attendance became aware of the movement of the Holy Spirit. The bishops, priests, ordinands, and lay representatives were brought to a place of "being in full accord and of one mind," as St. Paul prayed for the Church in Philippi.
"The questions and concerns that were expressed in regard to what had been read and heard about the forthcoming Apostolic Constitution were addressed by Archbishop John Hepworth. Bishop Mercer and myself.
"The Resolutions unanimously passed by the Assembly were carefully written and clearly reflect TTAC's corporate desire and intention. All present realized that the requirement for the days ahead is patience, charity, and openness to the Holy Spirit."
Significantly, this vote took place in the birthplace of the Anglican Communion, and its members voted in favor despite the Apostolic Constitution having not yet been published.
Recently, the Traditional Anglican Communion has been looking at establishing a mother house in England, possibly a former monastery which hasn't witnessed the ordination of a Catholic priest since the Reformation.
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| AllanP | Posted: 2009/11/5 14:36 Updated: 2009/11/5 14:36 |
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This should come as no surprise as the TAC has been knocking on Rome's door since it left the Worldwide Anglican Communion 30 or so years ago (at the time the issue was woman ordination).
Rome, I think, was concerned that the TAC was a "knee jerk" reaction. But 30 years of patient persitance by the TAC has now been rewarded. |
| CityTroope | Posted: 2009/11/5 22:17 Updated: 2009/11/5 22:17 |
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It is imprudent to jump into the most enticing water without first finding out what is under the surface. I find the thought of Christian unity very attractive, but how can you accept an offer which has not yet been made?
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| hunter | Posted: 2009/11/6 2:44 Updated: 2009/11/6 4:52 |
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As I began contemplating elsewhere:
Whereas some clergy may sincerely and personally want to go to Rome, that most assuredly does not automatically mean it is in the best interests of individual parishioners let alone an entire parish. Many parishioners have left Rome and become Anglicans for very good reasons and certainly do not want to return to Rome. Many parishioners are divorced and remarried, use contraceptives, have lived "real lives". Other parishioners simply have thoroughly evaluated the positive and negative aspects of going to Rome, and have decided they prefer to remain Anglicans. Indeed, many may prefer to join AC-NA rather than the group eagerly marching off to Rome in other parts of the world. Some parishioners have been the victims of Roman Catholic pedophiles. To even suggest that they return to Rome is an obscenity. Other parishioners simply cannot in good conscious, after prayer and discernment, agree to the dogma of the Roman Catholic catechism; cannot accept the dictates of the magesterium; and have no intention of ever being told they must submit to the authority of any human being, including even the nicest of popes......all very real and documented requirements of parishioners going to Rome. As a matter of fact, the ancestors of many parishioners came to these precious American shores to escape monarchies, theocracies, and other authoritative hierarchies. On the other hand, certainly there are those clergy and parishioners who are thrilled and delighted to go to Rome. How absolutely wonderful the generous offer of the Pope is for that group. It is their glorious pilgrimage; it is their mission; it is their long anticipated spiritual journey. But, most importantly, it must be their very own personal decision free of coercion from anyone. For others, Rome is simply not appropriate. They, too, have their special pilgrimage; it is their heartfelt mission; it is their unique spiritual journey that is also their very own precious and individual choice. For me, I will remain an Anglican and hopefully, someday, be part of a new and glistening "Anglican City on a Hill" that shall arise from the decimated Anglican Communion that now lies brutalized by the tyranny of the episcopal church and cries for renewal by the touch of the merciful and loving hand of our Lord. |
| blackshama | Posted: 2009/11/6 13:03 Updated: 2009/11/6 13:03 |
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The whole idea of an ordinariate is really a TAC idea. TAC has been knocking on Rome's door for years. So it is not a surprise that a TAC church would accept the yet unpublished Apostolic Constitution.
I don't understand why Protestant Anglicans have a problem with this. The TAC has subscribed in toto to the Catholic Catechism. They have accepted everything that Anglo-Catholics have waffled on even Papal Infallibility. TAC is much more honest than many cradle Catholics who are of the cafeteria kind. TAC has decided to eat the whole course. The TAC is thus now a Catholic church. We have to recall that some people have brought up the issue of TAC bishops being twice married, and that TAC is a shady communion etc. This has to be set aside now and let the Pope deal with the problems of completing and perfecting TAC's communion with the Holy See. |
| unitarian | Posted: 2009/11/6 20:21 Updated: 2009/11/6 22:34 |
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The nineteenth century idea of Anglo-Catholicism was to recover the almost vanished Catholic elements that existed in the English church and construct from them a Catholicism that would be both authentic and largely indigenous. It was never intended to be a "via media" somehow compromising between Protestantism and Roman Catholicism, but rather something sufficient in itself. My own belief is that the Anglo-Catholics succeeded in doing this and I am very comfortable in the faith they reclaimed. Now people like me are faced with heart and conscience-rending choices. Do we follow colleagues to Rome? In many cases we simply do not believe Roman doctrine in its entirety which is why we have been here for almost two hundred years and not there. Do we try to hold on in an Anglican communion that seems to be signaling that it no longer has any place for us? Do we join the legions of spiritual orphans filling the continuing church movement, having no homes any longer with Canterbury and not entirely comfortable with Rome? This is a time of testing and suffering. I envy those for whom the choices are clear and wish them well, but for now I don't know where to turn.
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| Bernadette | Posted: 2009/11/6 22:05 Updated: 2009/11/6 22:05 |
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Let us all be mindful that these are individuals making a decision to either go to Rome or stay withing the Anglican communities.
We each must search for ourselves what is right for us. If we don't, then we have no one else to blame if it is not what we expected. There are many sinners in both churches, as I have belonged to both. I get tired of having the sins of Rome always brought up. Let us be fair there have been many sins within the Anglican Communion. It really doesn't matter which church you belong to, Baptist, Methodist, AoG, whatever people are people and we all commit sins. Anglicans shoud be careful about the abuse issue as it is well known that they shouldn't be throwing stones. Instead of focusing on what is wrong in one person's eyes, let us focus on what is right for that person to bring them closer to our Lord. Our Lord must be looking down on us right now and shaking His head on the unChristian remarks being made. Let the Holy Spirit be in charge, let go and let God take over the future. I am tired of all the anger that has been shown. I made my decision as an individual although I was within a group. That is what every intelligent person should do, not take the word of anyone else, make your choices based on what you feel is truth, not on what another says is truth. Hopefully we can all wish our brothers and sisters the best and pray for them whether we agree or not. That is the Christian way. Anger is harmful for the soul, let us have peace within our Christian faith. |
| marinemama | Posted: 2009/11/7 17:24 Updated: 2009/11/7 17:24 |
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May the Lord bless and keep the members of TAC in their new spiritual journey. There isn't any point in arguing about whether they should or should not have crossed the Tiber. This is a decision for each of us to make. There are certainly plenty of reasons for disgust with both TEC and the wider Anglican communion these days.
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| Hkepfer | Posted: 2009/11/7 17:31 Updated: 2009/11/7 17:31 |
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Maybe Orthodoxy is an option for you?
Maybe to your conscious, the New Apostolic Constitution will be acceptable? Maybe the TEC will restore itself to Orthodoxy? Maybe a new and orthodox reconfiguration of Anglicanism is your answer? The stress within Anglicanism has produced one good thing more people are trying to understand key concepts such as one, holy, catholic, apostolic church, Orthodoxy & Anglicanism itself. On whole &, maybe I am Polly Anna, but I welcome religious clarifications. I think we should look for the hand of Providence in this & then pray even with more focus, for the well being of all of Christianity & G-D's Creation. Amen+ |
| patulous | Posted: 2009/11/8 19:28 Updated: 2009/11/8 19:28 |
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I can see why they would want to go to the RCC and get out of the WO that has gone so wrong in the UK,and US. All others that decline now, don't cry later when the CofE, and TEC start having "how to be a homosexual." classes for your kids. You were given a chance.
Of course, you could just as well go over to a church that is a member of the "Affirmation of St. Louis and miss all the turmoil.” |















