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Anglicans Swimming The Tiber : Breaking news: Vatican issues 'clarification' of Anglican plan
Posted by David Virtue on 2009/11/1 8:00:00 (1354 reads)

Breaking news: Vatican issues 'clarification' of Anglican plan which does not rule out ordaining married laymen
The Vatican has issued a statement about its plans to create a personal Ordinariate for ex-Anglicans which discusses the possibility of ordaining married laymen on a case-by-case basis.

By Damian Thompson
The Telegraph
http://tinyurl.com/ye7mz33
October 31, 2009

Cardinal William Levada, head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, was seeking to quash speculation that the publication of the Apostolic Constitution had been held up by squabbles over the ordination of married men. Not true, he insists.

His statement makes clear that celibacy will be the norm for priests in the Ordinariate - but does not rule out the possibility of married seminarians becoming priests, so long as the local Ordinary, the bishops' conference and the Holy See agree that an exception should be made. My reading of this document is that it does not completely close the door on the possibility of future married seminarians being ordained.

Here's the press release containing the Cardinal's statement in full. These things are difficult to interpret, so I'd be interested to hear what you make of it:

CLARIFICATION BY THE DIRECTOR OF THE HOLY SEE PRESS OFFICE, FR. FEDERICO LOMBARDI, S.J., ON SPECULATIONS ABOUT THE CELIBACY ISSUE IN THE ANNOUNCED APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION REGARDING PERSONAL ORDINARIATES FOR ANGLICAN ENTERING INTO FULL COMMUNION WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

There has been widespread speculation, based on supposedly knowledgeable remarks by an Italian correspondent Andrea Tornielli, that the delay in publication of the Apostolic Constitution regarding Personal Ordinariates for Anglicans entering into full communion with the Catholic Church, announced on October 20, 2009, by Cardinal William Levada, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, is due to more than "technical" reasons. According to this speculation, there is a serious substantial issue at the basis of the delay, namely, disagreement about whether celibacy will be the norm for the future clergy of the Provision.

Cardinal Levada offered the following comments on this speculation: "Had I been asked I would happily have clarified any doubt about my remarks at the press conference. There is no substance to such speculation. No one at the Vatican has mentioned any such issue to me. The delay is purely technical in the sense of ensuring consistency in canonical language and references. The translation issues are secondary; the decision not to delay publication in order to wait for the 'official' Latin text to be published in Acta Apostolicae Sedis was made some time ago.

The drafts prepared by the working group, and submitted for study and approval through the usual process followed by the Congregation, have all included the following statement, currently Article VI of the Constitution:

§1 Those who ministered as Anglican deacons, priests, or bishops, and who fulfill the requisites established by canon law and are not impeded by irregularities or other impediments may be accepted by the Ordinary as candidates for Holy Orders in the Catholic Church. In the case of married ministers, the norms established in the Encyclical Letter of Pope Paul VI Sacerdotalis coelibatus, n. 42 and in the Statement "In June" are to be observed. Unmarried ministers must submit to the norm of clerical celibacy of CIC can. 277, §1.

§2. The Ordinary, in full observance of the discipline of celibate clergy in the Latin Church, as a rule (pro regula) will admit only celibate men to the order of presbyter. He may also petition the Roman Pontiff, as a derogation from can. 277, §1, for the admission of married men to the order of presbyter on a case by case basis, according to objective criteria approved by the Holy See.

This article is to be understood as consistent with the current practice of the Church, in which married former Anglican ministers may be admitted to priestly ministry in the Catholic Church on a case by case basis. With regard to future seminarians, it was considered purely speculative whether there might be some cases in which a dispensation from the celibacy rule might be petitioned. For this reason, objective criteria about any such possibilities (e.g. married seminarians already in preparation) are to be developed jointly by the Personal Ordinariate and the Episcopal Conference, and submitted for approval of the Holy See."

Cardinal Levada said he anticipates the technical work on the Constitution and Norms will be completed by the end of the first week of November.

END

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DPJ071
Posted: 2009/11/1 16:25  Updated: 2009/11/1 16:25
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I love the Roman Catholic Church and am thankful Benedict XVI has made this move; however, as an Anglican, I am thankful my priests are married. Personally I think the RC stand on unmarried priests needs to be changed. I've always been against the Church changing "with the times"; however, married priests are not part of any new age ideal. It's time to change the rules on married priests. I have no issue with the Church requiring unmarried priests to remain celibate until they are married.
johncarl
Posted: 2009/11/2 11:21  Updated: 2009/11/2 11:21
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I do have an issue with married priests. First of all, RC congregations are much larger than the Anglican/TEC congregations. Several churches in my area of Florida have 3,000 to 5,000 individual members. Its 2:00 a.m. and a parishioner is dying and in need of a priest. However, the priest's 5 yr old son is very sick. What to do, what to do. How also do we deal with a priest who wants to divorce his wife? What if his wife it a shrew - she comes first, parishioners second? I have run into this more than once in the Episcopal Church. This is no ordinary job. I think Christ knew what He was doing when He decided His priests need to be married to the Church. Amen.
anilwang
Posted: 2009/11/2 14:59  Updated: 2009/11/2 14:59
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Very valid points, but even the RCC agrees that the marriage of priests is not doctrine, it is practical for the reasons you've outlined and more. The RCC isn't committed to unmarried priests. It just sees the wisdom in it.

But it can work, as is witnessed in the early church and in the Eastern Orthodox. I think that the comment about married priests being accepted on a case by case basis is very prudent. If a potential RCC priest wants to marry, it is not enough for that person to be qualified and extremely holy by human standards. A marriage is a unity so the spouse of the potential RCC priest must also be acceptable and for the spouse to accept additional burdens and for both to be instructed ahead of time how they are to deal with any children resulting from the marriage.

Missionary couples with children already have this difficulty. If they serve in dangerous areas, their children may suffer. If they serve in areas where they are very much in demand, their children may suffer. But it can work, to the benefit of both the children and the ones the parents serve, if approached with wisdom.
ngchase
Posted: 2009/11/2 17:45  Updated: 2009/11/2 17:48
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 Re: Breaking news: Vatican issues 'clarification...
As a Catholic of the Eastern Rite (a Byzantine) I think that we need both a married and celibate clergy.

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I have no issue with the Church requiring unmarried priests to remain celibate until they are married.


Priests should never marry, period! That is the apostolic tradition but married men should be ordained to the Priesthood. I think that the Latin Church has its reasons for celibacy but I think married men should be considered for ordination. But for a Priest to marry after ordination is clearly a contradiction of apostolic practice and tradition, one has to make up their mind before ordination to the Deaconate.

I find the argument of having a large parish as a valid reason for having a celibate priesthood lacking. Many Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Priests who are married have large churches with many families (maybe not 5,000 but in this case I’m sure more than one Priest would be in the parish) and they can balance the two very well.

I do know that there are some problems with married Priests and divorce. Still I haven't heard of many Orthodox or EC Priests going threw it. A good way to really settle this (and it’s not perfect) is to make sure a married couple are stable in their marriage for a good period of time before considering ordination. Marriage is a vocation and so is priesthood, a married man who may be called to both needs much time for reflection and prayer before taking upon the yoke of Christ's Priesthood. This reflection needs to be done by both the man and his wife in consultation with their bishop.

I pray the Vatican does what is best for the Western Catholic Church and I pray that we may all be one!

Hkepfer
Posted: 2009/11/6 1:52  Updated: 2009/11/6 1:52
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Hear, hear!

Well said.
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