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Anglicans Swimming The Tiber : ROME: Vatican row delays Anglo-Catholic text
Posted by David Virtue on 2009/10/30 13:40:00 (1715 reads)

ROME: Vatican row delays Anglo-Catholic text

by Richard Owen in Rome
Times Online
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6895501.ece
October 29, 2009

The Pope is said to have wanted to wait until the text was finalised before making an announcement

A row has broken out behind the Vatican walls over the "confusion" surrounding Pope Benedict XVI's opening to disaffected Anglicans, according to a papal biographer.

Andrea Tornielli, the biographer of several modern Popes including Pope Benedict, said that just over a week after its existence was revealed by the Vatican, the text of the Apostolic Constitution laying down the conditions for the creation of a new "Anglo-Catholic" section of the Church was still not ready for publication.


This was not because of translation problems but "something more serious", Mr Tornielli said. There was still debate behind the scenes over priestly celibacy, the "most sensitive point for public opinion".

When asked last week about admission into the Catholic Church of married Anglican priests under the new rules, Cardinal William Levada, head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, replied that requests would be judged "on a case by case basis".

It was left unclear however whether Anglican seminarians who were either married or who wished to get married before being ordained would also be admitted to the Catholic Church. The final text of the Apostolic Constitution is likely to "eliminate this ambiguity" by making clear that all trainee priests will be required to be celibate if they wish to go over to Rome, Mr Tornielli said.

The row has been exacerbated by the decision to disclose Pope Benedict's approach to Anglican traditionalists before the final text was ready, thus risking another of the "diplomatic gaffes" that have occasionally marked his pontificate so far.

The Pope is understood to have wanted the announcement to be made only when the text was finalised, in order to avoid a public relations disaster like that which followed his rehabilitation in January of Richard Williamson, an excommunicated arch-conservative bishop, before he became aware that Bishop Williamson was a Holocaust denier.

However Cardinal Levada announced the Anglican move prematurely because he had just briefed Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the Catholic Bishops of England of Wales - neither of whom were consulted - and was concerned that the news might leak out unofficially, Mr Tornielli wrote in Il Giornale.

A number of Catholic commentators have pointed out that allowing Anglicans to bring their "traditions and practices" with them could end up altering the traditions and practices of the Catholic Church - including celibacy - as much as undermining the Anglican communion.

Roman Catholic canon law states that clerics are obliged "to observe perfect and perpetual continence for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven, and are therefore bound to celibacy, which is a special gift of God by which sacred ministers can adhere more easily to Christ with an undivided heart and dedicate themselves more freely to the service of God and humanity."

However this is a regulation rather than unalterable dogma, and deacons in the Catholic Church are already exempted from the rule. So too are priests in the Eastern Catholic Church, although they may not be ordained bishops.

The celibacy rule was not introduced until the Middle Ages. It is assumed that St Peter himself was married, since St Mark refers to Jesus curing St Peter's mother-in-law of fever. Many early Church fathers were married, and in his first Letter to Timothy (3: 2-4), St Paul observes that a bishop "must be above reproach, the husband of one wife".

However early Church priests who were married had to remain widowers and abstain from sexual activity if their wife died. The fourth-century Council of Elvira went farther, laying down that although bishops and priests could be married, "they are to abstain completely from sexual intercourse with their wives and from the procreation of children" - the beginning of the celibacy law that took shape later under medieval Popes.

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esniii
Posted: 2009/10/30 17:20  Updated: 2009/10/30 17:20
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 Re: ROME: Vatican row delays Anglo-Catholic text
While I can sympathize with Roman Catholics not wishing to allow any change for Anglican bishops/priests coming to Rome through the new Apostolic Constitution, if this provision is weakened or removed, it could easily make the offer less palatable to Anglo-Catholics.

I am reminded of the sponge soaked in vinegar offered to our Lord; another instance of Romans meeting the letter of a request, but not fulfilling its purpose.
eChurch
Posted: 2009/10/30 17:20  Updated: 2009/10/30 17:20
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 Re: ROME: Vatican row delays Anglo-Catholic text
I believe this is an intelligent strategy to create resentment in the Catholic priestly ranks over the issue of celibacy, to create fertile ground for reform, in order to ease the unification and communion of Catholics and the Orthodox church.

This Pope is driven by the theology of unification and unity and 'oneness' within Christ's people, which is especially evident in the prayers of Jesus at the last supper in the Gospel of John.

Just my opinion....
xenophore
Posted: 2009/10/30 20:31  Updated: 2009/10/30 20:31
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 Marriage and celibacy
If the new Personal Ordinariates use the same rules as the Orthodox Church, then candidates for ordination must either already be married or choose lifelong celibacy before ordination to the diaconate. If married, neither the candidate nor his wife may have been previously married. If a clergyman's wife dies, he may not remarry. There are also other canons; for example, a candidate's wife may not be an actress, a rule that makes more sense to me every day. I know of a few individual exceptions that have been made to these rules, but they are few and far between and, in some cases, have caused a real ruckus amongst the faithful.

As far as I know, the Eastern Catholic Churches maintain the same rules except in the United States where, due to the protests of those in the Latin Rite, they are required to comply with the same rules of priestly celibacy as the Latins. In this day and age of easy international travel, however, I have heard of cases where married American candidates fly to the Middle East, get ordained there, then fly back having been immediately transferred to one of the American Eastern Catholic eparchies.

Does anyone know where to find reference material that shows under what rules married clergy are received into either the Anglican Use or the Pastoral Provision?
eChurch
Posted: 2009/10/31 7:20  Updated: 2009/10/31 7:20
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 Re: ROME: Vatican row delays Anglo-Catholic text
An interesting piece from the Baptists today I thought, it has taken a while but folks are starting to realise the implications on the Catholic side of the fence....

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--An invitation by the Vatican for Anglicans to enter full communion with the Catholic Church while preserving elements of their liturgical heritage could mean an increase in the number of married Catholic priests, leading to a possible reexamination of the celibacy requirement altogether.

During a news conference Oct. 20, the Vatican announced a desire for the Catholic Church to serve as a refuge of sorts for conservative Anglicans who disagree with the church's recent acceptance of women priests and openly homosexual bishops.

The New York Times described the move as an effort "to capitalize on deep divisions within the Anglican Church to attract new members at a time when the Catholic Church has been trying to reinvigorate itself in Europe." Some Anglican and Catholic leaders even expressed shock at the news, The Times said.

Experts expect the offer to appeal more to Europeans than to Anglicans in America, where conservatives already have formed an alternative to the increasingly liberal Anglican Communion. But in England, The Times said entire parishes or even dioceses could leave the church and set off battles over ownership of church buildings and land.

Bishop Martyn Mimms of the newly formed Anglican Church in North America welcomed the pope's invitation.

"It demonstrates his conviction that the divisions in the Anglican Communion are very serious and these are not things that are going to get papered over," Mimms told The Times.

He added that he didn't expect many conservative Anglicans to take advantage of the offer because the theological differences are significant.

"I don't want to be a Roman Catholic. There was a Reformation, you remember," Mimms said.

But if enough Anglican priests decide to become Catholics, the Vatican could have a new debate on its hands regarding celibacy. The Catholic Church already allows married Anglican priests to convert and become Catholic priests while maintaining their marital status, but in the past few priests have chosen that route.

Some are speculating that as parishioners become accustomed to married priests who were formerly Anglicans, there will come a call for men who have always been Catholic to be allowed to marry.

"If you get used to the idea of your priests being married, then that changes the perception of the Catholic priesthood necessarily," Austen Ivereigh, a Catholic commentator in London, told The Times.

"We face the prospect in the future of going to a Catholic church in London and it being normal to find a married Catholic priest celebrating at the altar, with his wife sitting in the third pew and his children running up and down the aisle," he said.

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=31594&ref=BPNews-RSSFeed1030
ejsteele
Posted: 2009/11/1 2:11  Updated: 2009/11/1 2:11
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 Re: ROME: Vatican row delays Anglo-Catholic text
If anyone wants to know the real reason for the delay, as well as what the document will say about celibacy, the answers are provided here:
http://www.zenit.org/article-27402?l=english.

Cardinal Levada, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is very clear. So there is no reason to go to sources outside the Vatican, especially since those sources are only tossing out theories.

Ed
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