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Exclusives : TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
Posted by David Virtue on 2009/8/19 23:30:00 (4489 reads)

TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?

News Analysis

By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
August 20, 2009

TransEpiscopal. No, it is not a visa to get into 815 2nd Avenue, The Episcopal Church's headquarters in New York, via a TransEpiscopal railway, nor is it Mrs. Jefferts Schori's intention to have a 17th offshore diocese in London with a number of Church of England parishes dissatisfied with the direction of the Church of England.

TransEpiscopal is the latest in a long line of sexualities that embrace a group calling themselves transgendered Episcopalians, that is, men and women who have had a sex change operation, so that someone can go from male-to-female and female-to-male via a surgeon's knife in what is called sex reassignment surgery.

Up to this point The Episcopal Church has dealt mainly with gays and lesbians, which, over time, morphed into something called LGBT which included bisexuals and a group calling themselves transgendered. (No, the letters have nothing to do with Gay Bacon, Lettuce and Tomato sandwiches either.) We are on a whole new plain here.

Before GC2009 wrapped up its adventures with sexuality issues in Anaheim, Resolution C048 was passed supporting something called the Employment Non-discrimination Act (ENDA) under the Episcopal rubric of Discrimination. It read thus: "Resolved, the House of Bishops concurring, that the 76th General Convention of The Episcopal Church support the extension of existing federal laws that prohibit employment discrimination to include discrimination because of sexual orientation or gender identity and expression along with those prohibitions based on race, gender, religion, national origin, age, and disability..."

The explanation was that transgender(ed), bisexual, lesbian and gay persons are at risk from discrimination and harassment in every area of life and in particular in seeking and maintaining employment. The end of ENDA was clearly in their sights.

Not to be outdone, The Episcopal Church's First Sodomite Emeritus Dr. Louie Crew weighed in with his own resolution (D032) arguing that transgendered lay folks should not experience discrimination in lay employment based on race, color, sex, national origin, age, familial status, disability, sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression.

Naturally, in the name of social justice, inclusion, diversity, heterosexism, homosexualism and transgenderism, both resolutions passed.

Another resolution, C061, which attempted to add the phrase "gender identity and expression" to the list of protected classes in Title III, Canon 1, Section 2 (the Canon on Ordained Ministries), was not successful. It passed in the House of Deputies, but the House of Bishops amended it to remove the whole list of protected classes ("...race, color, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity and expression, disabilities or age...") and changed it to read something along the lines of "The process of discerning who is called to ordained ministry is open to all people..." died on the vine. But the transgendered community made it clear that they would be back in three years to try again. A 19 year-old trans-man deputy from Rhode Island, Dee Tavolaro led the failed charge.

The Episcopal Church even went so far as to produce a video from something called the Gender Identity Project or GIP that explained transgenderism to people still recovering from V. Gene Robinson, a non-celibate homosexual, being consecrated bishop.

"Transgender Basics" is a 20 minute educational film on the concepts of gender and transgender people. Two providers from the Center's Gender Identity Project (GIP) discuss basic concepts of gender, sexual orientation, identity and gender roles. Three transgender community members share their personal experiences of being trans and genderqueer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXI9w0PbBXY

"Our culture likes to make things simple, and gender isn't." Carrie Davis, Transgender Community Organizer, in Transgender Basics. Indeed it doesn't.

Basically transgendered folk argue that what goes on between your legs is sex, what goes on between your ears is gender, and it is important that the two line up for satisfactory gender identification. They are not called to celibacy and they believe that sexual behavior is permitted, but VOL cannot say for sure with whom.

In Canterbury, a transgendered priest was an exhibit on display at Lambeth 2008 exhibit hall. The Rev. Dr. Cameron Partridge, a transgender Episcopal priest from the Diocese of Massachusetts, was a speaker at a Lambeth Conference "fringe" event along with four other transgender people. A former female with a PhD from Harvard, Partridge transitioned to maleness about six years ago. He has served part-time as priest at St. Luke's and St. Margaret's Episcopal Church in Allston, Massachusetts, since June 2006.

Transgendered folk like to quote this biblical text to support their sex change: "As many of you as were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to the promise." Galatians 3:27-29 (NRSV) Presumably the bit about "no longer male or female" is compelling "evidence" of the New Testament support for transgendered identity.

We doubt, however, that the Apostle Paul would agree with this textual interpretation. Not even the most liberal theologian in history has argued that the text could be thus interpreted.

According to one blogger, there were at least eight transgendered persons embedded in the larger Integrity team at GC2009. They comprised five transwomen, two transmen, and a gay male ally; three priests, one deacon, and four lay people; and one of their number, Dee Tavalaro, a 19-year-old layman, was the first trans deputy in the House of Deputies. They come from Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Maryland, Michigan, Wisconsin, and, yes, California - and span the age spectrum from nineteen to seventy.

At the concluding press conference led by the President of the House of Deputies, Dr. Bonnie Anderson, the Presiding Bishop, the Most Rev. Katharine Jefferts Schori, and the Bishop of the Diocese of Los Angeles, the Rt. Rev. Jon Bruno, a questioner, Rachel Swan with Integrity USA, asked the panel if they would comment on the passage of the resolutions that deal with advocacy for transgender people, "kind of a first for our church."

Bruno replied, "Well, transgender people are part of the congregations in this diocese, and they're part of the world community. And it's a good thing that we're dealing with this openly. We need to talk about the fact that humanity is different wherever you go, and that we are all called to be loved as children of God, and dealt with, with equity and love."

Anderson followed his remarks by saying, "Let me just add that in the House of Deputies we had testimony from transgender persons. It was very moving. It was very well received in the House of Deputies. I believe that it helped us to see and learn about that particular way of being. We welcomed that and did pass resolutions to include all people, including transgender persons."

Clearly the use of LGBT shows where The Episcopal Church is going. Once it became mandatory to approve of the homosexual lifestyle, then the transgendered demanded and received approval of their behaviors.

The strategy, for obvious reasons, was to have the campaign for approval of a bisexual lifestyle follow "victory" for the homosexuals and transgendered. However, we have yet to see an ordained bisexual in an Episcopal pulpit (that I know of) preaching a sermon on "Peter, James and John" and whatever sexual possibilities might be construed from certain biblical texts. Queer theologians already argue that based on John 21:20 where Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved at the Last Supper might well indicate more than just a platonic relationship between the two.

To date no other denomination in the US has publicly grappled with transgender or even bi-sexual issues, but you can be sure it will come.

Many of the mainline protestant denominations are still wrestling with gay and lesbian issues and the real possibility that one or more will have future pansexual pastors in their pulpits.

Once that has been achieved there will no doubt come a time when someone will push the transgender envelope. For Episcopalians, adultery and bestiality still remain no no's.

For now, the passage of resolutions D025 and C056 will pose enough headaches for Mrs. Jefferts Schori as two dioceses, Minnesota and Los Angeles, have nominated gay and lesbian candidates as possible bishops.

Most of the The Episcopal Church may well see the possibility of yet another openly homoerotic bishop as a communion-breaking event that could finally sever TEC from global Anglicanism.

The possibility of a transgendered bishop in the future might be seen by some as a huge "inclusive" step forward and the promise of (trans) sexual fulfillment by TEC to a handful of sexually confused persons.

For orthodox Anglicans, it will be viewed as a huge step backwards, dangerous enough to sink the church beneath the waves of a dying post-modern culture to which TEC has married itself, thereby making itself a denominational orphan.

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RevDarrenS
Posted: 2009/8/20 11:02  Updated: 2009/8/20 11:04
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
Yet another step backwards into the sins that caused Sodom and Gomorrah's downfall. THat's ok... They've made their choice.

We've made ours. No law or institution made by man will compel us to go against the faith that was once delivered.

"Fear not he who can destroy the body but fear Him whom can cast the soul into the everlasting fires."
daveball
Posted: 2009/8/20 11:16  Updated: 2009/8/20 11:16
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
TEc appears to seize every opportunity to reach for new heights of absurdity and new lows of depravity. TEc long ago ceased being a Christian Church. It became a culture club. Now it appears to be leaving even that behind as it heads toward becoming a carnival side show. "And in this corner ladies and gentlemen, we have......."
jfmckenna
Posted: 2009/8/20 11:52  Updated: 2009/8/20 11:52
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
Do you really think this is the FINAL sexual frontier? Don't you sense that the one word they can't say is NO? A couple of years ago, a British woman has married a dolphin in Israel. (I'm not making this up; you can Google it.) Forty-one-year-old Sharon Tendler has tied the knot with a 35-year-old dolphin. If you propose this as acceptable at General Convention, maybe rolling in the dolphin tank just to make it clear what you're talking about, how many of them would really object? They'd just assume she wants a PORPOISE-driven life.
SixDays
Posted: 2009/8/20 12:13  Updated: 2009/8/20 12:13
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
QUOTE: "Basically transgendered folk argue that what goes on between your legs is sex, what goes on between your ears is gender, and it is important that the two line up for satisfactory gender identification."

This is Baloney, of course, but if it were true, it would be better to change whats between your ears. It would also be cheaper <grin>.

SD
SixDays
Posted: 2009/8/20 12:20  Updated: 2009/8/20 12:20
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
QUOTE: "Transgendered folk like to quote this biblical text to support their sex change: "As many of you as were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus."

This is also the text used by those in favor of WO. This is a classic example of taking scripture out of context and totally ignores all other scripture which prohibits both LGBT & WO.

Alacarte Christianity at its best.

SD
Isaac
Posted: 2009/8/20 12:46  Updated: 2009/8/20 14:01
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
A person who hires a surgeon to mutilate his/her genitals is deranged. They went to the wrong doctor, they should have gone to a psychiatrist (although that profession is rife with quackery).
Women who try to change to a man will still have two X chromosones and men who try to change will still have an X and a Y.

And shame on the doctors who do this surgery. Of course, medicine abandoned the spirit (and the letter) of the Hippocratic Oath long ago when they started doing abortions.

Isaac
Cennydd
Posted: 2009/8/20 13:04  Updated: 2009/8/20 13:05
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
I thought I'd seen and heard of just about everything, but this beats all!

I think the Communion should hire a team of shrinks to examine TEC's leaders' heads....starting with that Jefferts Schori woman!

Oh, and put Screwy Louie in a straitjacket!

Cennydd
aterry
Posted: 2009/8/20 15:48  Updated: 2009/8/20 15:48
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
This is amazing... Every time I read about a new TEC outrage, I feel more and more like Lot sitting in the city gates.

Too, I'm settled that we should all rise with one voice and nominate Jerry Springer as the next PB.
Causidicus
Posted: 2009/8/20 19:35  Updated: 2009/8/20 19:35
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
Every time you think they can go no further . . .

The final frontier for revolutionaries of untrammelled sexual fulfillment is, most likely, the removal of all legal and cultural barriers regarding sexual activity between adults and minors of any age. (The Bennison bro.s would be demigods in that pantheon.)

Sick acts for a sick society which needs sick priests to justify it all.
FrankV
Posted: 2009/8/21 2:47  Updated: 2009/8/21 2:56
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
There are more frontiers for them. Next, they will be recruiting and training up acolytes for temple prostitution and pleasuring the priests.
Sic transit gloria Episcopalia.
Traktaryan
Posted: 2009/8/21 16:52  Updated: 2009/8/21 16:52
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In the immortal words of Al Jolson, later echoed in song by Bachman Turner Overdrive,

"You ain't seen nothing yet"
rpearse
Posted: 2009/8/21 17:36  Updated: 2009/8/21 17:36
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
Final? Not so. What about the chap who "married" his horse and wrote a book about it? Of course it was the old, old story; he was astonished at how narrow-minded people could be.

Still, a bishop in love with an ass would hardly seem much of a change from current practice, would it?
LGMarshall
Posted: 2009/8/21 22:45  Updated: 2009/8/21 22:45
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
Contrary to what TEC & various 'Emerging Church' types say... JESUS did directly address Trans - Homosexuality as a sin.

" 'Why then', they asked, 'did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?'... Jesus replied, 'Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.' The disciples said to him, 'If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.' Jesus replied... 'Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the Kindom of Heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it. ' Matthew 19:7-15.
jameslove
Posted: 2009/8/22 4:07  Updated: 2009/8/22 4:07
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
Brothers and Sisters, things get even weirder than this.

People who are attracted to objects, like bridges, trees, ets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_sexuality

One day perhaps someone will demand that they be allowed to marry their refrigerator?
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Posted: 2009/8/22 5:13  Updated: 2009/8/22 5:13
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
Some time ago, I suggested tongue in cheek to Susan Russell on her blog, that GLBT sounded something like what you might order on a Bread roll in a Subway store: gherkin, lettuce, bacon and tomato. I would have loved to see her face turn purple when she read that post and her response was none too pleasant. I wonder how many more letters they can add - Pe for paedophilia, Be for bestiality, Po for polyamory, N for necrophilia, A for adultery, Daa for drug and alcohol dependency, K for kleptomania - all in the name of social justice and inclusion. There truly are no moral boundaries once we reinterpret the Bible to suit our individual feelings and experiences, and if Integrity had any integrity they would be honest and admit that this is where their agenda is headed. Hey, let's all swim in the cesspool and let's do it quickly!
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Posted: 2009/8/24 13:14  Updated: 2009/8/24 13:14
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
"Once that has been achieved there will no doubt come a time when someone will push the transgender envelope. For Episcopalians, adultery and bestiality still remain no no's."

The one you forgot David is pedophilia. It too will be seen as an injustice for those who just happen to be born loving children.
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Posted: 2009/8/24 14:06  Updated: 2009/8/24 14:06
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
I praise God for ++ martin Mimms, Akinola, & the leaders of ACNA. it's like I got to worship a Risen Lord for the 1st time again when I joined an ACNA church.

I have no idea why someone would put an institution above service to Christ. If that is the case ( as my eyes see it) maybe some of the hangers-on would be more comfortable in the Church of the Big Orange who meet Western KY in 2 weeks. Good crowd there.

Seriously, my heart is saddened that ther are so many who will not determine what they are serving now. Shake the bonds of captivity from your feet people. Come out to the Light. it is good.

The sooner the Episcopal Church implodes the sooner reconciliation can happen. The longer folks in the pews ignore the facts ( See VOL posts) the longer the abuse from wormwood will continue.
dgmarker
Posted: 2009/9/5 2:52  Updated: 2009/9/5 2:52
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
RIGHT ON, daveball. I live in California. Everywhere you go in southern California, there are a bazillion wierdos, wackos, freaks and loons. TEC in California has even more of these folks than the general population -- I will not comment on the Ordinary..... As usual for those on the far left, these folks want someone else pay for their lunacy, so it is clear that the TEC is not long for the planet; certainly, it is not recognizably Christian. I wonder what Ms. Jefferts-Schori has been smoking -- certainly not tobacco....
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
David, you've got this one terribly wrong. With few if any exceptions, the operations which result in transgendered people are done on people who have "ambiguous sexuality," that is, sexual equipment of both genders.

I would hope that your commentors might have had a smidgen of even the former Ayatollah Khomeni of Iran, who decreed that all transgendered people in Iran were to be protected and given the same respect as any other people.

I would hope an apology will be forthcoming at Virtue Online. The ridicule heaped on transgendered people is not new, but given what the medical community knows (knowledge shared by a part of the Episcopal Church out of favor by your web site) that ridicule is not only inappropriate, it is cruel and unthinking. Children born with ambiguous sexuality have not offended anyone -- and medical procedures which give them a shot at a fairly decent life are not an offense against God in the same way that operations to correct cleft palates are not offensive to God.

Take a few minutes and do some research on this, then apologize -- either that or take after boys and girls who have had corrective surgery for their cleft palates.
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Posted: 2009/9/8 12:42  Updated: 2009/9/8 12:42
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
To some extent, I sympathize with TBWSantaFe. A child born with ambiguous sexuality has a physical problem that can and should be corrected. Where I disagree is that there are adults who "feel" it is time for a sex change because they begin or continue to "feel" differently about their own sexuality. (A somewhat feminine man who suddenly feels that he should have been a woman or a somewhat masculine woman who suddenly feels that she should have been a man.)

These ambiguous "feeling" adults have been around for most of human existence and they have learned to cope with their situation. Today, however, it is the "thing" to be "me" - and so much of the surgery performed is really unnecessary and faddish. This is terribly destructive of family and social relations. In other words, "me" is the only thing that is important and everyone else be damned.

We are all sinners in one form or another, and we all have to live with whatever God has given us. Unfortunately, far too many people reject God and the Christian faith that whatever our fate is, God is there. This holds true for all people, and those who seek to overturn this simple truth do great harm to themselves and many innocent others.
Tusker
Posted: 2009/9/10 17:22  Updated: 2009/9/10 17:25
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 Re: TransEpiscopal: The Final Sexual Frontier?
"Final frontier?"

Hardly.

The question begged is why the intense focus on obtuse human sexual proclivities by Jefferts Schori and her high-profile liberal sexual minorities who have driven conservative members of an already minority "denomination" into the arms of other "religious" opportunities; all of this against a backdrop of "disturbed" bishops, including Pike wandering around in the "wilderness" prior to expiring, mercifully.

The answer is Jefferts Schori, the "scientist" who comes to set the record straight against those despised "creationists" and other "fundamentalist" types who are antithetical to the "scientific method," whose cars are adorned with the "Jesus fish logo", rather than the "Darwin" spin-off.

Jefferts Schori, and her sycophants, are paying back the "Jesus fish logo" group with the "reasoning" of the scientific method, elevating the scientific method to a priestly cult that advances "reason", derides "emotion", and abhors the "superstition" of fundamentalism.

Final frontier?

Jefferts Schori and her "followers" have no frontiers. Everything is in play.

And she will have you believe that "resistance is futile."
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