The Heresies of Episcopal Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori
News Analysis
By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
August 12, 2009
Article XVIII. Of obtaining eternal Salvation only by the Name of Christ. For Holy Scripture doth set out unto us only the Name of Jesus Christ, whereby men must be saved.
The Lambeth Quadrilateral. The Lambeth Conference of 1888. Resolution11. (a) The Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, as "containing all things necessary to salvation," and as being the rule and ultimate standard of faith.
On the Consecration of a Bishop. Are you persuaded that the Holy Scriptures contain all Doctrine required as necessary for eternal salvation through faith in Jesus Christ? And are you determined out of the same Holy Scriptures to instruct the people committed to your charge; and to teach or maintain nothing, as necessary to eternal salvation, but that which you shall be persuaded may be concluded and proved by the same?
Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6 (NIV)
"... If you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9
Recent statements, comments and interviews by the Presiding Bishop of The Episcopal Church, Katharine Jefferts Schori, reveal a common theme: she no longer (if she ever did) believes in the unique claims of Jesus Christ as both savior and Lord resulting in a poor if non-existent Christology.
In a recent video, Jefferts Schori openly and publicly denied that Jesus is the only way to salvation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IxG96wpx60
She has publicly said that Muslims do not need converting to Christ and that she would never tell them they do, or that Jews are saved under the first covenant. In her most recent statement, uttered publicly at General Convention in Anaheim, she stated that personal or individual conversion (to Christ) is a Western heresy and likened it to "work" rather than that of free grace.
In a video, she clarified her views on salvation saying, "In some parts of Christianity we have turned salvation into a work, you have to say that I claim Jesus as my Lord and Savior in order to be saved and that turns it into a work and it denies the possibility of grace."
The retired Bishop of South Carolina, The Rt. Rev. Dr. C. FitzSimons Allison expostulated that Mrs. Jefferts Schori's remarks are not a distortion of Christology, the Trinity or even the Creed, but are the announcement of a different religion. "It doesn't measure up to heresy. She is trying to reduce Christianity to the blank space in the creed between the Virgin Mary and Pontius Pilate."
The former Suffragan Bishop of Albany, The Rt. Rev. David Bena blasted Jefferts Schori at a recent CANA Council in Herndon, VA, where he is now a full bishop in communion with the Anglican province of Nigeria, saying that Jefferts Schori's rejection of personal salvation is a heresy that insults our Heavenly Father, who wishes each one of us to have a personal, saving relationship with his Son.
"Perhaps this leader has not read, marked, heeded and inwardly digested Romans 10:9, 'because if you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved' and a thousand other passages from the scriptures covering the same subject are there," he cried.
Jefferts Schori argues that God made promises to the Jews that have not been broken. "God made promises to Ishmael (Muslims) and I don't believe God has broken them, either." She then said that other faith traditions, which include men like Mahatma Gandhi, the Dalai Lama, and Thich Nhat Hanh, show what look like fruits of the spirit through their godly behavior. "If I deny they have access to God...then it is a sin against the Holy Spirit."
That is not what Jesus taught about the sin against the Holy Spirit. In Mark 3:28-30 Jesus said, "Truly I tell you, people will be forgiven all their sins and all the blasphemies they utter. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, but is guilty of an eternal sin." He said this because they [the Pharisees] were saying, 'He has an evil spirit'."
It was the religious leaders of his day who Jesus accused of blasphemy. Might not the same condemnation apply to the likes of Jefferts Schori for her blatant denial of the unique claims of Christ?
She concluded her ad hoc remarks by saying, "It is not my job, and it is God's job to figure out who is going to be in the Kingdom." While it is true that we do not know WHO will be in the kingdom, there is no doubt about HOW one obtains entrance into the kingdom. The Presiding Bishop is not free to pronounce on the sovereign "work" of grace what God does in the lives of people who often privately repent, seeking his forgiveness away from the bright lights of public crusades, weepy public confessions and much more. God works in the heart, far from human observation.
Mrs. Jefferts Schori's blunt universalism does not sit well with Scripture. No serious Christian theologian, excluding Arius, in twenty centuries has challenged the unique claims of Jesus being fully divine, that he is fully God and fully man, the Savior of the world, Messiah (that one's for the Jews), prophet, priest and king who will one day spread his rule over all the kingdoms of the earth, and of His kingdom, there will be no end.
Unpacking Jefferts Schori is a bit like unpacking a boat load of bananas from Chile only to discover that most of the bananas had rotted en route, but on further search discovering that one or two had made the trip intact, but had been contaminated beyond edibility.
She said the whole world has access to God. That statement is true. The whole world does. John 3:16 (NIV) confirms that. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
Access is indeed universal. Scripture is equally clear however that "no man comes to the Father except by me" (the Son). The full text reads, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, nobody comes to the Father except through me." (John.14:6) One wonders how she parses such verses, of which there are a number, that indicate the exclusivity of revealed truth. "He that seeks me will find me." (Jer. 29:13)
In some parts of Christianity, we have turned salvation into a work that denies the possibility of grace, according to Jefferts Schori. Really. I wonder what 40 million evangelical Anglicans in the Global South, Evangelicals in Sydney and Nelson (NZ), Southeast Asia and the Southern Cone would make of that statement? Do you have wonder why GAFCON exists?
Jefferts Schori is right on one point. She said comments like these "drive some Christians nuts." In this, she is absolutely correct, it does, including this writer, every Evangelical in America associated with unnumbered Christian churches, every orthodox Anglican in the Global South and every catholic Christian on the planet whose numbers reach into the hundreds of millions.
Clearly God made promises to the Jews that have not been broken, she said. Jefferts Schori needs a refresher in OT theology. God established a new Covenant, Jeremiah 31:31-40, "I will put my law within them and write it on their hearts." The old covenant was broken, broken by sin. It ceased to have any redeeming value. Furthermore covenants were made to be broken. At least you would think that was the case, if you tracked the history of all the covenants God established in the Old Testament. Each covenant's basic structure is, "I, God, will do X and you, human, will do Y." From Adam to Moses, when a covenant was broken, it was always broken in the same way - people failing.
In what is likely the theological highlight of Jeremiah, and arguably the theological high point in the OT, Jeremiah declares the new covenant, "Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah." (31:31) The covenant promised in Jeremiah 31 is not only new, it is different from the others.
Would Jefferts Schori say to my neighbor, a converted Jew and an Episcopalian, that his desire to honor Messiah Y'shua is a mistake? What would she say to the hundreds of thousands of Jews who over the centuries have acknowledged the messiahship of Y'shua? "He was our Messiah before he was yours," a converted Jew once told me. He is correct.
God made promises to Ishmael that God has not broken, said Jefferts Schori. "Other Abrahamic faiths have access to God the Father without consciously going through Jesus," she has stated. Note the word "consciously". Is she suggesting they are going through Jesus unconsciously? "I also look at people in other faith traditions, Mahatma Gandhi, the Dalai Lama and Thich Nhat Hanh, who show the fruits of the Spirit...which we see as godly behavior."
If she honestly believes what she says she does, she should stand up and say that the Buddhist-leaning wannabe Bishop of Northern Michigan, Thew Forrester who got deep-sixed when he failed to obtain the required consents, was acceptable to her and go ahead and consecrate him, any way. Furthermore, she should over rule the decision to toss out a former Episcopal woman priest from TEC who announced, "I am both Muslim and Christian" and allow her to continue her ministry in The Episcopal Church.
Is Jefferts Schori saying that there is another name under heaven whereby we must be saved? If so, who?
If the HOB had any theology at all, it would bring her up on heresy charges. That will not happen, of course, because most bishops, who have gone through the church's liberal Episcopal seminaries in the last 30 years, don't believe much differently than she. After all, if Walter Righter could take a walk over heresy charges that he ordained an avowed non-celibate homosexual man to the priesthood, and if no one is going to bring presentment charges against Bishop John Shelby Spong whose 12 theses deny every vestige of historic Christianity, why bother going after Jefferts Schori? If the HOB were to do so, there would be cries of feminist outrage ranging from charges of sexism and exclusivity to fundamentalism.
Mrs. Jefferts Schori needs to be reminded of Jesus' words in Matthew 12:30-32, "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters." The Episcopal Church is being scattered to the four winds by moral relativity, blatant theological apostasy and much more. One day, the Presiding Bishop will have to give an account of her stewardship to the Lord of the Church. Among the issues she will answer for is who gave her the right to exchange the call of The Great Commission (to preach the gospel to all the world) for Millennium Development Goals, why she said personal salvation was a "Western heresy" and a "work", why millions of dollars were spent on litigation expenses that in no way advanced the Kingdom, and why the apostasies of TEC went unchecked resulting in millions leaving the church.
On "that Day", it might be too late for "personal salvation" for Katharine Jefferts Schori.
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| otispage2 | Posted: 2009/8/12 16:15 Updated: 2009/8/13 1:04 |
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Schori is the “Senior Partner” administering an apostate legal take-over of The Episcopal Church by a gang of relativistic pansexualists and homosexuals.
They may be informally known as the LGBT gang of Lesbians, Gays and Bisexuals and their closeted advocates – especially numerous Bishops in TEC. Their main objective is secular – in pushing civil rights legislation – such as “gay marriage” – and legislation to convict young people that “being gay is okay” in the names of toleration and discrimination. Their coincident objective is to destroy Christianity by proselytizing major Christian Churches with their agenda which contradicts the constitutional foundation established and declared over the millenniums in the Scriptures and confirmed by Tradition – as witnessed and sustained by “the faith once given.” Those in the Anglican Communion – here in the United States and throughout the world – who object to and repel this encroachment and take-over – serve Christ’s greater objective of salvation for those who believe, “For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, (men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.” (Romans 1:20,21,24, 26-27) Amen! |
| Cennydd | Posted: 2009/8/12 16:43 Updated: 2009/8/12 16:44 |
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The absolute truth of all this has been obvious for many years, and it began long before the likes of Pike, Spong, Schori and Company came on the scene! The heresies have piled one atop another for years, and have culminated in that abomination called General Convention 2009.
Heresy compounds heresy, and the stench only gets worse as time goes by. The stench emanating from Anaheim is spreading all around the Anglican Communion and beyond, and sooner or later, the Devil will reap his harvest of those who have led their flocks astray. Christ and His Church will not be mocked, and the time is coming very soon when those who have led the Episcopal Church and its people astray will be called on the carpet to answer for their sins; of that, we can all be sure! Cennydd |
| railbirdbc | Posted: 2009/8/12 19:57 Updated: 2009/8/12 19:57 |
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Schroi seems to think that belonging to a church is like belonging to the local yacht club. Sign up, get baptized, pay your dues, and turn up for the occasional festival, and you'll be OK. The modern use of the word "covenant" has suffered much abuse. A covenant does have conditions attached to it (covenants have always been two way propositions). But Schori and company are very far from God. The rest of us poor mortal sinners know in our hearts that we are ruined (and in need of God's saving hand), while Schori and company waive away the right to acknowledge their fault and to cry out to God for salvation. They don't need it; they have a covenant (although with whom they have this covenant nobody knows). They are stubborn, stiff necked, and self-righteous (really), and refuse to except God's Kingdom on his terms.
Well, I very much regret to inform Schori and company, that it's God's way or the highway! Ain't no other choice open, friends. |
| Ikerliker | Posted: 2009/8/13 3:11 Updated: 2009/8/13 3:11 |
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She is as false prophet.
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| Pebble | Posted: 2009/8/13 11:56 Updated: 2009/8/13 11:56 |
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If Presiding Bishop "liar liar pants on fire" Schori had been around at the time of the Council of Nicea, they would have drummed her out of the Church as the liar and heretic she is.
False prophet, indeed. |
| sentinel | Posted: 2009/8/13 12:03 Updated: 2009/8/13 12:03 |
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The fact that Episcopal Presiding Bishop appears in front of her name pretty much sums it all up.
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| sentinel | Posted: 2009/8/13 12:05 Updated: 2009/8/14 18:37 |
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Pebble, if Katherince Jefferts Schori were around at the time of Nicaea, she wouldn't have even been a deacon much less a bishop.
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| mathman | Posted: 2009/8/13 14:28 Updated: 2009/8/13 14:28 |
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A new pseudo-religion has been established. The Dennis Canon, never properly added to the Canons of ECUSA, has been asserted as the means by which Tec can claim ownership of all properties which Tec had no part in establishing, building, or maintaining.
The law firm of the Honorable Mr. Beers has been vastly enriched by the flow of capital in order to fund the many lawsuits in support of this unjust approach. Under the leadership of PB (?) Schori, Tec has written off Christianity. In its place is a hedonistic mish-mash of the heresy which was old when I was young. That heresy is that all mortals are on the same path and will end up at the same destination. That heresy is that the categories of sin (refusing to accept those writings which are claimed in Christianity to have come from God) are outmoded, outdated, and were intended only for primitive people who did not know any better. That heresy is that there is no one correct manner of life, no need to repent, no need to change; that heresy is that all are already OK. The clear and unmistakable intent of Tec is to become the new one true World Church, adopting as its theology the Millenium Development Goals of the United Nations, and uniting all ignorant and misguided souls in one vast community of so-called love, which does not judge, has no fear of hell, has no hope of heaven, and just does a few good works once in a while. There are two terrible errors here. The prophets prophesy falsely, said Isaiah, and the priests bear rule by their means. The end of all of this is eternal death. It is time to wake up. |
| Isaac | Posted: 2009/8/13 20:08 Updated: 2009/8/13 20:08 |
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Attention Episcopal Bishops, Priests and Deacons:
This is your Presiding Bishop. You are affiliated with her. You should do something about that. Isaac |
| daveball | Posted: 2009/8/14 0:05 Updated: 2009/8/14 0:05 |
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Fraud, false prophet and poster squid for NO to WO.
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| patulous | Posted: 2009/8/14 14:24 Updated: 2009/8/14 14:24 |
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Quote: "If the HOB were to do so, there would be cries of feminist outrage ranging from charges of sexism and exclusivity to fundamentalism."
There you have the problem....fear of what some group would say, instead of saying what Jesus would want you to say....Jesus was not afraid to stand up the to Sanhedrin and tell them the Truth. Our President Roosevelt said, "Nothing to fear, but fear itself." It still is the problem. |
| islandbear | Posted: 2009/8/14 15:27 Updated: 2009/8/14 15:27 |
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While preparing my homily for Sunday on John 6:51-58, I ran accross this in Brian Stoffregen"s Exegetical Notes. Perhaps this might assist Dr. Schori in coming to a more theologically sound position:
" Frequently in the church there are discussions about universalism. It is clear that Jesus' gives himself for the world (see also 6:13, 33) -- just as it is clear that God so loved the world (3:16). Yet we also have numerous examples of people who do not reap the benefits of what Jesus offers the world. We don't know if "the crowd" or "the Jews" who continually question Jesus in this section will come to believe and eat and drink. We do know that "many of his disciples turn back and no longer go about with him" (6:66). Why do they go away? Literally, they are not able to hear his hard word" http://www.crossmarks.com/brian/john6x51.htm accessed August 14, 2009. Islandbear+ |
| dannyiseli | Posted: 2009/8/14 18:54 Updated: 2009/8/14 18:54 |
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During my peregrination in TEC the only female clergyperson I ever heard preach the gospel with any modicum of biblical fidelity was Fleming Rutledge. I have to side with the Apostle Paul and those churches who do not permit a woman to proclaim the gospel to the gathered church of both genders. The propensity for distortion of the message appears to be a spiritually genetic given--all the way back to Mother Eve. And this Rt. Rev. Jezebel is only a doin a what comes natur'ly!
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| Aneirin | Posted: 2009/8/15 15:06 Updated: 2009/8/15 15:06 |
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The picture looks like something out of a horror movie.
What she says (and does) is worse. |
| patulous | Posted: 2009/8/16 8:29 Updated: 2009/8/16 8:29 |
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And that smile that indicates that she thinks she is SO.....cute in that hideous( exceedingly ugly) get-up.
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| aaytch | Posted: 2009/8/17 13:44 Updated: 2009/8/17 13:44 |
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Why blame it on Schori if the root of her heresies can be found in the 1979 Book of Common Prayer? It's a little ironic when I hear these complaints from Anglicans that refuse to give it up.
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| aspire1983 | Posted: 2009/8/17 16:29 Updated: 2009/8/17 16:29 |
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If the HOB had any theology at all, it would bring her up on heresy charges. That will not happen, of course, because most bishops, who have gone through the church's liberal Episcopal seminaries in the last 30 years, don't believe much differently than she. |
| yar2009 | Posted: 2009/8/18 2:05 Updated: 2009/8/18 2:05 |
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The Kingdom of God is like a field in which the enemy has sown tares among the wheat. So on earth the Church is as a field with both. To depart from the Church to form another Church was wrong in the 16th century. There is only One Church, filled with wheat and, alas, tares. Return to Her.
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| Magdalen | Posted: 2009/8/19 17:48 Updated: 2009/8/19 17:48 |
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Unfortunately, the takeover of historic, genuine groups by arrogant predators appears to be more and more common. The underlying human nature involved appear to be (in some) a well-minded aim to improve and build, and (in others) a corrupted need to get back at those with whom one disagrees or disagreed.
Nowhere is there respect or reverence for historic values, or any thought given to past achievements, while perhaps imperfect, were nevertheless laudable in large part given the frailty of human nature. Should it be any surprise that there is no respect even for past perfection? Now there's a good question for Schori: Does she believe that Jesus lived a perfect life? If yes, then who were the other perfect people in these other religions that we can emulate? In all cases, the error that TEC's "we" will make things perfect is marketed to applause and the grooming of narcissists. Narcissists, by their nature, gravitate to other narcissists, not to critics. Inclusion is only extended to the politically correct, not to the critics being driven nuts. And so we have the story of the growth of corruption, the greater association amongst those in power with other power brokers (who see quite clearly the advantages of people who will bestow God's blessings upon them), and the continued minimalization of meek sinners who admit their imperfections and model repentance. The very fact that Schori says and does what she says and does demonstrates no respect for or belief in Christianity. That such a person should be a PB and speak for what purports to be Christianity is blasphemy on a number of levels, both secular and sacred (hard to even include the word "sacred" in this discussion). For those of us who care about all the efforts and contributions of the past, it's especially mind-numbing that all they contributed which made the Episcopal Church in America such a target is being exploited and stolen by TEC. To me, that's what needs to be attended to -- for if the profit motive can be removed, revisionists lose much of their power, for their fellow predators will no longer care and find some other target. It's demonstrable to any honest thinking person that what TEC and its PB now advocate has nothing to do with Biblical Christianity and the past beliefs, aims and goals of contributors. There is nothing new under the sun. This sort of corruption has been recognized and dealt with before for what it was. I hope that current continuing churches are taking proper steps to protect what they build from such takeovers and corruption. We have not learned our lessons; we need another Paul of Tarsus to counsel and guide us, or many of them. The early Churches constantly fought corruption from within and without. TEC - and I don't know a lot of the history, just a little about Pike et al. - appears to have turned their heads and invited it in. If Schori and cohorts were in charge of some non-denominational liberal Xian church (which TEC has become), none of us would care much. It's the fact of her doing and saying these things as an alleged Episcopal bishop as though such had genuine meaning which is so very infuriating. This is a fight between absolute truth and those for whom anything goes (as long as the power to define truth is acknowledged). Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father but through Him. Ms. Schori has no authority to say anything different - so she must claim some other authority. "My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves." |
| Magdalen | Posted: 2009/8/19 18:17 Updated: 2009/8/19 18:17 |
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Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
So I wouldn't go so far as to say my gender makes me "spiritually genetic" disordered. I agree with you that some women can be good preachers. But even if women clergy were perfect exemplars, I agree that women's ordination is a mistake. I have read that many women preachers felt "called" to their "career". But the health and growth of GOD's church is not about the needs of the individual. I believe that a woman who wishes to become ordained in the Christian church has a yet imperfect understanding of human nature (both a secular understanding and as taught in the Bible), the makeup and needs of society, and her place therein - all of which are good arguments against ordaining her. There are plenty of places a woman can express her views - here for instance. A woman can speak her mind in most any setting these days. She can write books, have a radio talk show, and be interviewed and published. But priests, readers and teachers to the entire congregation need to be male, if only for one reason: men need it to be so. Any catholic examination reveals such. Any secular examination of history reveals such. And yes, Schori is a poster child for such. Christianity cannot survive unless we have men in charge who are comfortable with the roles God has assigned to them. Homosexuality is not merely condemned for its sexual improprieties. It is condemned on the basis of effeminancy and the disordering of God-given, natural relations between the sexes. Current secular research illuminates disorders in developing a sense of self and relationship. I don't claim that resolving such issues is easy for all. But those who are not well able to know history, discuss issues, and establish happy and enduring relationships in a God-given fashion ought not be ordained. We continue to suffer as a society here in America because we do a poor job in communicating these issues. Instead, the secular media makes a fortune telling faulty people how wonderful they are, as they are. We had better find ways to better value achievement and maturity. It seems we still suffer from "never trust anyone over 30..." Am sure that if TEC's current PB were a man doing and saying the same things, he could do the job just as badly as Ms. Schori is doing. In fact, quite a lot of men failed in order to elevate that woman in the first place. |
| russedav | Posted: 2009/8/20 13:00 Updated: 2009/8/20 13:00 |
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Another thing that will happen at the Judgment will be God's reminding TEC of His Isaiah 3:12 curse of them when He gave them feminist apostates as "leaders" whom Deborah condemns in Judges 4, for those who understand what she's really saying in excoriating Barak's failed leadership, but refusing to do so herself (hence Jael's part fulfilling Deborah's scornful prophetic warning in 4:9 and refuting the evil and inane notion of fools that godly Deborah was as evil as eisegetical feminists who pursue the "leadership" forbidden and condemned them by God through both Isaiah and Paul (1 Timothy 2).
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